Montezemolo still banging on about third cars

[WhiteBlue]

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx ... 1&PO=47681

I believe had the third car been there, with all respect to Mercedes, Schumacher would have been promoting not Mercedes, but Ferraris. ...A great rally champion like Loeb would like to run in Formula 1, and it would be nice. But the teams who want to win cannot risk having drivers who are not in the best condition.

Luca is simply wrong on this. As fans we want competition and not a bunch of pre arranged finishes of teams which are dependent of the grandees. Even if they don't win races new teams will put up tremendous competition between themselves and I'm sure they will give us things worth watching.

The other thing that bugs me is the insult that he deals to drivers like Schumacher and Loeb. It was Montezemolo who pushed Schumacher into retirement. I hope Brawn/Schumacher wipes the floor with Costa/Domenicali/Alonso this year. It will tell Monte a much needed lesson.

[xpensive]

Do you hate Montezemolo and Ferrari so much for not retaining Schumacher in 2006, you have to start threads like this?

[segedunum]

It was Montezemolo who pushed Schumacher into retirement. I hope Brawn/Schumacher wipes the floor with Costa/Domenicali/Alonso this year. It will tell Monte a much needed lesson.

Par for the course at Ferrari. They always have some push to get back to winning ways, and when they start winning they get uncomfortable behind the scenes that it isn't Italians doing the winning and they then think they can simply transplant Italians into the positions of those doing the winning and go 'Latin'. While there is some debate as to exactly how it happened and where, it's pretty clear they wanted to break the Schumacher/Brawn/Todt triumvirate up.

It's happened time and again at that team.

[DaveKillens]

Formula One is a wonderful sport to watch. Not only the racing and amazing cars, and of course, the drama and politics. Let's face it no television reality show comes even close.

Monty is his own man, like him or not. For the record, I don't, but I also recognize he's one smart and ballsy character. You have to have a well-developed set to do some of the things he does.

But his paycheck comes from Ferrari, it's his job to advance the company, and deliver a return to the investors or parent company. So when Monty speaks, it's to further his agenda for Ferrari. That is where his true loyalty lies.

Obviously, the man desires for Ferrari to completely dominate Formula One, heck, own the show. So although these wild proposals may appear to be put forth in the interests of Formula One, the bottom line is that it is to further Ferrari.

I'm a fan of racing, I have no single dedication to just one team or driver. My desire is to see various teams and drivers battling it out on the track, each one individual and distinct, true competition at all levels. I do not want to see a spec series where there is basically one car type, and the teams and drivers have to use that machine as they see fit. Yea, I know there are lots and lots of successful spec series, and I freely admit I watch and appreciate a lot of them.

But this is Formula One for Pete's sake, what is supposed to be the ultimate peak of motor racing. And I fully support the concept that each team has to provide their own car, because it's not just a battle between teams and drivers, but also a battle between car and powerplant designs.

Just my opinion.

[safeaschuck]

Is their anything stopping them designing a different chassis and selling it's I.P. rights to a customer team? What about drawing (moving) invisible lines round their facilities at Marenallo so they can let a portion of them out to trusted former Ferrari employees (who effectivly, were never out of a job) Chuck in some Maserati branding to secure a seperate revenue stream and ensure that an audit and other paperwork at least would classify them as a seerate team and what could the FIA do about it?

If Red Bull and Torro Rosso had amalgamated when shared Chassis were allowed you seriously think the FIA would have made them go out and buy another factory just to prove a point this year?

[WhiteBlue]

Do you hate Montezemolo and Ferrari so much for not retaining Schumacher in 2006, you have to start threads like this?

As long as Montezemolo keeps talking that crap it remains a talking point to critizise him. As Senna once said , life is too short to hate someone in F1. I see it that way as well. Nevertheless I would like to see him experience a fair return for pushing Reikkonen into the team. He was convinced that Schumacher had passed his sell by date and was only usefull for a third car gimmick. Having Brawn/Schumacher deliver a reality check to Ferrari would certainly be something worth watching. I will keep my fingers crossed.

[conni]

personally ive never liked Schumacher, but to see an old war horse come back and stuff it to the youngsters seems rather appealing it must be my age lol

conni

[segedunum]

Nevertheless I would like to see him experience a fair return for pushing Reikkonen into the team.

Still not convinced about the wherefores of that one. Raikkonen has never struck me as Monty's man. He's certainly not 'Latin' for starters. The question has never been satisfactorily answered as to why Alonso wasn't Schumacher's replacement. It was touted often enough. Todt didn't particularly like Alonso from his F3000 days, didn't seem to want him at Ferrari and Raikkonen would seem to fit more into a Todt recommendation for a replacement.

[WhiteBlue]

Montezemolo bought a 5 mil $ option on Reikkonen. Dennis reacted by hiring Alsoslow. So Monte jumped on the option, simple.

But the real issue here is Monte trying to build satellite teams for the fat cats instead of independent teams. He just wants F1 as a big Ferrari money making machine under his control. Good that some other people object to his vision.

[raceman]

this topic has already been discussed

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7193



don't open unnecessary threads.

[WhiteBlue]

have Tomba or Ciro join the threads then

[raceman]

no need. this is already a useless thread

[Mr Alcatraz]

Do you hate Montezemolo and Ferrari so much for not retaining Schumacher in 2006, you have to start threads like this?

As long as Montezemolo keeps talking that crap it remains a talking point to critizise him. As Senna once said , life is too short to hate someone in F1. I see it that way as well. Nevertheless I would like to see him experience a fair return for pushing Reikkonen into the team. He was convinced that Schumacher had passed his sell by date and was only usefull for a third car gimmick. Having Brawn/Schumacher deliver a reality check to Ferrari would certainly be something worth watching. I will keep my fingers crossed.

I am a huge Ferrari Honk!!!
However I can't stand Luca di '
Especially when he makes idiotic comments like the ones in this piece:

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... -the-grid/


I hope Ferrari can succeed in spite of him [-o<

[ISLAMATRON]

Birds fly upsidedown over Luca M's head

[jac]

I am a huge Ferrari Honk!!!
However I can't stand Luca di '
Especially when he makes idiotic comments like the ones in this piece:

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... -the-grid/


I hope Ferrari can succeed in spite of him [-o<

An extract from that very article....

"Pressed as to how he justifies thinking Ferrari is now the only car manufacturer in F1 when Mercedes is fielding a works team in 2010, president Luca di Montezemolo said: "You can not compare Ferrari with Mercedes."

after which he rambles on & on & on...

This guy hasn't got his head on straight