Lewis Hamilton has won the Turkish Grand Prix in Istanbul after closely following the Red Bulls until they knocked each other out. Jenson Button was second, while Mark Webber managed to finish third after an extra stop. Sebastian Vettel didn't make it to the finish.
Slow in turn 8 would indicate to me that the rear wing is not living up to it's hope. That is a massively long corner and to be slow there indicates a DF problem in relation to the Red bulls, which I've read, were almost flat thru all of turn 8.chasefreak wrote:all that matters is ... when the lap is over who is faster... just being faster in T8 does not help... and we all know rb's have more downforce
There is no rule for a change of equipment on Friday. The rule only cuts in on Saturday with FP3 and qualifying.Sean H wrote:I didn't know how the gearbox limit was written. So other than eating up some equipment, it should be a non-issue.
28.6 For the purposes of this Article only, an Event will be deemed to comprise P3, the qualifying practice session and the race.
a) Each driver may use no more than one gearbox for four consecutive Events in which his team competes. Should a driver use a replacement gearbox he will drop five places on the starting grid at that Event and an additional five places each time a further gearbox is used.
Any replacement gearbox must be fitted with the same gear ratios that were declared under d) below and will only be required to complete the remainder of the Event in question. Any change to the gear ratios declared under d) below will incur a further five grid place penalty. In either case a new four race sequence may start at the following Event.
Unless the driver fails to finish the race (see below) the gearbox fitted to the car at the end of the Event must remain in it for three further Events. Any driver who failed to finish the race at the first, second or third of the four Events for reasons which the technical delegate accepts as being beyond the control of the team or driver, may start the following Event with a different gearbox without a penalty being incurred.
A gearbox will be deemed to have been used once the car’s timing transponder has shown that it has left the pit lane.
b) If a driver is replaced after the first, second or third of a four Event period, having finished the first, second or third Events, the replacement driver must use the gearbox which the original driver had been using.
c) After consultation with the relevant team the FIA will attach seals to each gearbox in order to ensure that no moving parts, other than those specifically permitted under d) below, can be rebuilt or replaced.
d) At each Event seals may be broken once, under supervision and at any time prior to the second day of practice, for the sole purpose of changing gear ratios and dog rings (excluding final drives or reduction gears). Competitors must inform the FIA technical delegate which ratios they intend to fit no later than two hours after the end of P2.
Gear ratios and dog rings (excluding final drives or reduction gears) may also be changed under supervision for others of identical specification at any time during an Event provided the FIA technical delegate is satisfied there is evident physical damage to the parts in question and that such changes are not being carried out on a systematic basis.
e) Other than under d) above, a replacement gearbox will also be deemed to have been used if any of the FIA seals are damaged or removed from the original gearbox after it has been used for the first time.
Unless you were in Bahrain.Sean H wrote:So it is safe to assume that nobody uses a race gearbox in FP1 or 2, correct?
Sorry Wesley, but do you have a quotable source for this information?wesley123 wrote:it is simply well known mclaren is lacking downforce
Actually it is said everywhere. Hamilton said it multiple times already this year and it is just a fact, it was actually discussed in this thread recentlyforty-two wrote:Sorry Wesley, but do you have a quotable source for this information?wesley123 wrote:it is simply well known mclaren is lacking downforce
Yes, the RB is ~4/10ths faster in S2 but over a lap the MP4 is ~1/10th faster. We'll need to wait for Q3 tomorrow (assuming both make it that far) to see how much the RB has in reserve because if those times are representative of outright pace (and that's not very likely I suppose) then the RB boys will need to pedal well in S1 and S3 to get pole.outer_bongolia wrote:Judging from the sector times in Formula1 website, McLaren definitely seems to be lacking in downforce.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/ ... times.html
They are really fast in sectors 1 and 3, but the curvy sector 2 is killing them. Red Bull is 0.4s faster there. It seems the new rear wing is not bridging the gap too much..
Apologies Mx. I should've done but with the monaco duel I glazed over.mx_tifosi wrote:Roost89, at least read the last few pages!
Note: I just cleaned up this thread by removing the Monaco/Hill/Schumacher discussion. It doesn't belong here so I moved it over to the Monaco GP thread where it's more relevant. Beating a dead horse in the current GP thread isn't welcomed.
I don't think it is likely. Everyone has said something similar on the Friday of every race this season and it's never worked out that way. I actually think Red Bull play some sort of game on Fraiday where they see how much fuel they can put into the car whilst being level or even ahead of everybody else. Fair play to them, because they can. If Red Bull weren't carrying quite a bit more fuel then I would have expected to see them be much faster in sector 3 given they showed good mechanical grip in Monaco and it should show up in the slower corners. If they really are four tenths ahead in sector two whilst carrying more fuel then it all looks a bit hopeless.Just_a_fan wrote:Yes, the RB is ~4/10ths faster in S2 but over a lap the MP4 is ~1/10th faster. We'll need to wait for Q3 tomorrow (assuming both make it that far) to see how much the RB has in reserve because if those times are representative of outright pace (and that's not very likely I suppose).....
