Nobody seems too excited over Vettel winning the WDC

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Nobody seems too excited over Vettel winning the WDC

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Did you guys see the Abu dahbi grandstands after the race? I mean other than the RedBull, Renault and TR garages, the place was quite torpid; no cheering, no dancing not even any boos and cursing like brazil 2008...

Even on the internets the Vettel WDC threads are just small.. Even Buttons lame WDC got more excitement than this!
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n smikle wrote:Did you guys see the Abu dahbi grandstands after the race? I mean other than the RedBull, Renault and TR garages, the place was quite torpid; no cheering, no dancing not even any boos and cursing like brazil 2008...

Even on the internets the Vettel WDC threads are just small.. Even Buttons lame WDC got more excitement than this!
It's beacuse he keeps on giving everbody "the finger"!;)
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But Buttons WDT was part of the brawn story. everyone wanted the poor redundant team that only just made it to the grid, to win. With Redbull, having by far the fastest car all year, it was a given. I think the flex wing fiasco lost them alot of reaspect, in that if seamed like they were cheating and tainted the title alittle. On top of all the "redbull golden boy" treatment over Webber acusations. Especialy after taking out webber in turkey

BUT more than anything, i think its because people plain dont like him. I'm a Mclaren man, so dont have a grat love of fernando, but even i would have prefured him to take the title over Vettel.
From a personal point of view, if a mclaren couldnt have crossed the line as champ, Webber would have been my man. Down to earth, straight talking and not afraid to tell the press things the team rarther he didnt.

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It's no big surprise when you don't see people dancing in Abu Dhabi.
Those people are just not so extrovert. You also don't see short dressed girls or any alcohol.

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mep wrote:It's no big surprise when you don't see people dancing in Abu Dhabi.
Those people are just not so extrovert. You also don't see short dressed girls or any alcohol.

thats because the beers and bikinis are missing. :)

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I think a certain blue and white individual in the south is going off his nut. :P

But seriously, well done to the fella. Your can't ask more from the guy bringing home the pork. And like others here, I felt his tears in the his helmet, and they softened my feelings for the bloke.

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No one can say that it isn't fully deserved.On the other hand, the same Alonso admitted that first place was beyond their merits.
But still cannot figure out how could the strategy error that led to Seb triumph be made... It seems to me like the final part of the script. Moreover, Alonso was taken back into contest after germany, and winning it by seven points or less would have been a severe blow tho the credibility of the sport.
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It's cause the fans know he will be insufferable now he has a WDC.
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It's not that people aren't excited for him, a lot of us are. My thoughts on Webber aside, I truly feel sorry for Alonso and Hamilton as well, as these two were the only ones capable of keeping the Red Bulls honest, in vastly inferior cars. Given that, I feel that both Fernando and Lewis punched above their weight given their respective cars' performance relative to the RB6.

I won't take anything away from Vettel's championship, he deserves it, but his run to the title (bar his mistakes) was made A LOT easier given the superior car. One thing's for sure, if Lewis and Alonso had equally capable cars, the outcome of the championship might have been VERY different.

In the end, Vettel had the most points, and that was all that mattered. So congrats to him and the team.

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Richied76 wrote:But Buttons WDT was part of the brawn story. everyone wanted the poor redundant team that only just made it to the grid, to win. With Redbull, having by far the fastest car all year, it was a given. I think the flex wing fiasco lost them alot of reaspect, in that if seamed like they were cheating and tainted the title alittle. On top of all the "redbull golden boy" treatment over Webber acusations. Especialy after taking out webber in turkey

BUT more than anything, i think its because people plain dont like him. I'm a Mclaren man, so dont have a grat love of fernando, but even i would have prefured him to take the title over Vettel.
From a personal point of view, if a mclaren couldnt have crossed the line as champ, Webber would have been my man. Down to earth, straight talking and not afraid to tell the press things the team rarther he didnt.
:lol: You're funny mate.

Webbe, a better guy? Let me see. Who moaned bout unfair treatment, when the luck swung against him. Webber.
Who onl had praise for the team and campaigned to every journalist he could find that Red Bul shold make him number 1. Webber

Who got out of his car and sulked away into the background after AbuDhabi. Webber

Webber is a horses behind. He also spent most of the afternoon behind a slower horse because he realised he could not get into the 2nd he needed so he decided to not help his teammate. Thats a pretty selfish person in my view. Sure he's quick but he'sa selfish complaining git and he did not deserve the championionship . Neither does Alonso.

Why is a Vettel championship so quiet? Because the odds were against him. Ferrari and Shell had bought up advertising space to celebrate and now its redundant LOL. You get what you deserve in this world.

"People plain don't like him" ....? Vettel? really. He's only the most popular driver in the paddock. everybody loves Sebastian.
I guess forums always attract people who try to paint thinnly veiled personal bias as fact. LOL

the truths are. Vettel is a very popular guy in the paddock
Vettel is a Wold Drivers Champion in F1
mark Webber is a choking, complaining git who could not cut it on the day. He could not even bring himselfto help his teammate when his own chances evaporated. Thats poor sportsmanship.
All Webber had to do was Qualify 2nd and stay there in the race. With his qualifying record you'd think its a no brainer. We'll never know but the popular opinion in the paddock before the race was if Webber was behind Vettel and Alonso behind him, vettel would have ceded his own position to Webber. Webber certainly did nothng to help Vettels or the teams cause last night.

Is he the number 2 direr? Only in his own mind and therein lies the rub. He believes himself to be a number 2 and he racedlike a number 2 yesterday.

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As if Alonso or Hamilton won their titles in inferior cars... Renault and McLaren those days maybe weren't as dominating as Redbull, but at least they had no comparable team mates (like in 2007). Who has better car usually wins, and it will be that way until we will see 20 Monaco races in calendar.

[edit] As to most recent post: thats the same biased opinion, and still no strict facts. I personally tend to agree with what You disagree, does that mean that we're all blind to the only proper truth or something?
I personally dislike Vettel (which i shouldn't obviously, considering the FACT that everyone loves Sebastian :oops: ), but he seems to finally mature slowly and for that I respect him as a reigning WDC.
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Honestly, I was extremely excited to see Vettel win. I wanted him to win because he is a fast driver (since the Toro Rosso days), tend to excel under pressure, has a great personality, has been a underdog most of the year (never led the championship) and finally, he won the championship by giving his all (i.e. winning the crucial last race and not holding back like the way Hamilton or Button did).

So overall, he deserved the WDC and I see him as a great role model for other drivers to follow.

I don't mind Alonso to win but then Alonso was gifted 7pts from Massa. Webber should have equal chance but then he didn't do well on Abu Dhabi which was crucial for his championship (yes, it is just that small difference that lost him the championship).

Overall, this is the best season I've seen for a long long time.

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Raptor22 wrote:Is he the number 2 direr? Only in his own mind and therein lies the rub. He believes himself to be a number 2 and he racedlike a number 2 yesterday.
wow! thats quite strong words... but is fine with me. I feel that Massa has been like that All year as well. Personally, I felt that Webber collapsed (faltered) under the great pressure of trying to win the championship. He may have over-drove in the quali session. then I suspect he gave up in the race knowning that in the meetings RedBull would have wanted him to be the support driver.

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netoperek wrote:As if Alonso or Hamilton won their titles in inferior cars... Renault and McLaren those days maybe weren't as dominating as Redbull, but at least they had no comparable team mates (like in 2007). Who has better car usually wins, and it will be that way until we will see 20 Monaco races in calendar.

[edit] As to most recent post: thats the same biased opinion, and still no strict facts. I personally tend to agree with what You disagree, does that mean that we're all blind to the only proper truth or something?
I personally dislike Vettel (which i shouldn't obviously, considering the FACT that everyone loves Sebastian :oops: ), but he seems to finally mature slowly and for that I respect him as a reigning WDC.
Your logic is flawed. Personal dislike does not = Vettel is generally disliked. It does = you dislike Vettel and you're entitled to your feeling of dislike.
Attempting to paint the picture of dislike being more general is a little juvenile ince you don't have a relationship with him of any sort, except maybe he took your candy in kindergarten.

Fact: Vettel is well liked in thepaddock. That is not my opinion but the sentiments of team managers, drivers and the BBC commentators. Conclusion, he is wel liked,

Jamsbong,
Yes those are strong words. No one has ever claimed Mark Webber to be a number two driver excet Mark Webber himself back in Silverstone when did'nt like the fact that wing he felt gave him no benefit was fitted to Sebastian Vettel's car. He prefered theolder wing and his car was promptly fitted with it but he did not like the fact that the new part was fitted to Red 5. Thats not very team like sentiments is it?
Fact is, he planted the seed in his mind that he was being treated like a number two and started to believe it when he felt the team was siding with Vettel.
If you walk like a nuber 2, talk like a number two then surely you are a number 2. Other folk may be seeing a number 1 but your mind is the final deciding machine in determining who and what you are. Webber programmed himself to be number 2. No one did it to him, he did it too himself.
Yes strong words, but the truth does often hurt when your opinion of self is more ego flattering.
Yesterday he drove like an awful number two driver.

Sure Massa has also resigned himself to being number 2. His choices were, leave Ferrari or be number2 to ALonso whose main sponsor is also the main sponsor of the Ferrari team. That situaion is a little more transparent although Ferrari like to wordsmith thir way out of it. At RedBull, why would the team consider Webber as number 2 when he is the longest standing driver they have so they have paid him more and knows the team better. All I can summise is that he, through his number 2 thinking has distanced himself from the team.