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As Newey now seems to be widely regarded as the top engineer in F1 (especially since Byrne retired), who would you consider to be the next best engineer (can be a technical director or chief designer/aerodynamacist)?
This is such a silly question. Newey and Brawn and those guys don't design the whole damn cars and have a hundred other engineers just there to marvel at their genius.
Who is to say the success of "Newey" recently isn't attributed to his cadre of designers and analysts actually doing the legwork?
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ah Tom we were there already.That´s not the question really.Without an army of talented motivated boffins Newey would not even come up with a car making the grid.
I bet he does not have any clue at all when it comes to electronics ,Software the list is endless.
The guy has a vision and he is really good to get the people in line to strive for the
most effective compromise. he has an eye or a good gut feeling for the important things
in the regs and how to use them to the advantage of the car.
If he´s a brilliant engineer or could run a ANSYS simulation -who cares?
Surely they got brilliant aeroguys led by peter prodomou who followed Newey to RB from Mclaren...whereas his collegue Tombazis went to Ferrari..
But Surely Mclaren as a team work just as well even when you cannot really single out the magicans there.But they somehow kept on top of what was going on there when Newey was on board..I think in Mclaren Newey was also not really what you would call a head of design ...but more the genius on site producing ideas and giving valauable input in critical situations.Maybe in RB his role is developing more into a mentor like position..but still I cannot see him as chief designer/technical director ..I think he hates everything bureaucratic administrational if he can even spell something like this...
marcush. wrote:I think in Mclaren Newey was also not really what you would call a head of design ...but more the genius on site producing ideas and giving valauable input in critical situations.Maybe in RB his role is developing more into a mentor like position..but still I cannot see him as chief designer/technical director ..I think he hates everything bureaucratic administrational if he can even spell something like this...
I think the key difference between RB and McLaren is that the former seem happy to allow the aero packaging to be the dominant feature. McLaren seem to have a more holisitic design view. I think that when Horner quipped that Newey wouldn't let them run KERS if it got in the way of the aero packaging, I don't think he was joking. McLaren, OTH, would have said "make it work" because the potential for aero + KERS is higher than just aero alone (providing you can get the two to work together). If RB ever get KERS to work in the RB7 then the season is over as far as the titles are concerned...
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Jersey Tom wrote:This is such a silly question. Newey and Brawn and those guys don't design the whole damn cars and have a hundred other engineers just there to marvel at their genius.
Who is to say the success of "Newey" recently isn't attributed to his cadre of designers and analysts actually doing the legwork?
Did i say Newey designed the whole car?
I want to know who people's opinions about the top engineers in the sport. That's not a silly question at all.
Intriguing topic. Too bad so many simply want to split hairs: NO, Newey does NOT design the whole car. So? No one does. And no one said he does.
He is clearly the best (IMO). Period. He's far ahead of the rest (at this moment, under the current set of restrictive rules), so far that second is, IMHO, too far behind to matter.
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill
So how are we saying who is the best then, or that Newey is "clearly" the best. Few here even know any of the engineers at these teams other than the absolute highest level guys. Who is to say there aren't some guys under Newey who are just as sharp or better?
What metric are we using to gauge "best" anyway? The success of anyone... driver, crew chief, race engineer, design engineer.. is as much contingent on their surroundings as their inherent raw talent.
Much like talking about the "best" drivers. Don't think many really paid any attention to Button until get got in the Brawn car and they started stomping people. Did Jenson's talent level streak up overnight? No. Just a function of the environment he was in. So again, how are we truly gauging "best" and how much value an engineer will bring to an organization... without really knowing crap about all these organizations?
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