Ferrari taking over F1?

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Media group News Corporation has officially confirmed it plans to look into a joint takeover of Formula 1 with an Italian investment company that has close links to Fiat.
Is this part of the Ferrari Bernie game plan against FIA 2013 engine rules?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91096

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FOM is 90% owned by CVC and JPMorgan, is it not? That should pave the way to it being susceptible to a hostile takeover; if someone was rich enough to buy those two parties out, no?
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It´s BS, CVC will not sell F1 in the near future.
The truth will come out...

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CVC says it's NewCorp (Rupert Murdoch) and that the possibility of a buy-out is "friendly." Also that F1 is "not for sale."
Ferrari take over? Time for the tin foil hats again.
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EXOR are a FIAT controlled Investment House like CVC...hence the link to Ferrari.
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Wait; from a legal standpoint, is it not possible to perform a hostile buyout of shares from CVC?
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Yes, hence the statement:

"Exor and News Corp will approach minority partners and key stakeholders in the sport"

In my mind, this is exactly that.
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More realistically, the teams are showing an interest too:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 314790.stm
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Any ideas what a team owned F1 would look like?
Box! Box!

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Just_a_fan wrote:More realistically, the teams are showing an interest too:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 314790.stm
Ferrari involvement and teams involvement in the sports ownership is real bad news.

F1 is not EPL where the rules of the game do not change. There are way too may areas in technical aspect of the sport which will need consent of the different teams with different agendas.

FOTA is already in loggerheads with 2013 rules, a change of ownership to the teams will only complicate things even more. Adding 12 more Bernie Ecclestone into the sports ownership is a nightmare for all F1 fans.

F1 is heading the same way as CART. An organization which failed so miserably towards the end as the team owners could agree to nothing.

VERY BAD NEWS.

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I'd rather the teams had an ownership stake than Sky, that's for sure. If Sky get it and take it to pay-to-view (even if they allow fee-to-air "live replays" after the event) then I, for one, shall not be watching F1 any more.

It's interesting that the most interesting time in F1 for the last 20 years is probably the time when the teams are involved, through FOTA, in the process of making the rules. We've had several close seasons with quite a lot of good racing going on through the field. I don't think the teams' ownership of the sport would make that worse - they're astute enough to know that they have to keep lots of fans on board to keep revenue up.

I'd be happy for the teams to come up with a wide set of 2013 rules e.g. you can have a big capacity V8-12 or you can have a small turbo. Then if Ferrari want to race big V engines they can. Whether they can win that way is then up to them. Likewise aero - let the teams run more underbody derived downforce with limited wings if they wish - this should allow more wheel to wheel racing without the fear of losing the precious front wing.

Open end the rule book and then help the poorer teams to compete e.g. cheap/free engine/gearbox supply deals. Let Ferrari et al spend $200m on developing their car if they wish but they have to give 2 back-marker teams their drivetrains. Then the poorer teams can spend their limited resources on pure car development not engine/gearbox purchases.
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Jeffsvilleusa wrote:Any ideas what a team owned F1 would look like?
The inside of a shark's stomach? Seriously, I don't think a wholly team-owned F1 would work, but I'd like to see them own a percentage.
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill