Reducing the outlandish cost of F1

[Tommy Cookers]

.... Maybe could had V8s or 120º V6 with the same technology for an even firing with a more appealing sound ....

those aren't good with a single MGU-H or other turbocharger

but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)
yes it would sound like an inline 3

[Waz]

JordanMugen offered a constructive point - the cars always looked the same. The argument was not about identical cars on a technical level.

The images posted illustrate this nicely.

Further, this is formula racing. It's all about the rules and finding innovative solutions within those rules or via a loophole.

[diffuser]

JordanMugen offered a constructive point - the cars always looked the same. The argument was not about identical cars on a technical level.

The images posted illustrate this nicely.

Further, this is formula racing. It's all about the rules and finding innovative solutions within those rules or via a loophole.

it's meant not to be easy.

[BassVirolla]

.... Maybe could had V8s or 120º V6 with the same technology for an even firing with a more appealing sound ....

those aren't good with a single MGU-H or other turbocharger

but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)
yes it would sound like an inline 3

Why not a single turbocharger? Nothing not solvable with a hot V, I think. Even if the "twin 3 inlines" is not ideal (which a 90⁰ V6 also is not), I cannot see any inconvenience with a flat plane V8.

[dans79]

Would you like to see races determined solely by driving skill?

Even in a spec series that doesn't happen a lot. The engineers always have some level of input into the cars performance . On top of that you have force majeure scenarios.

[diffuser]

Would you like to see races determined solely by driving skill?

Even in a spec series that doesn't happen a lot. The engineers always have some level of input into the cars performance . On top of that you have force majeure scenarios.

I was always a proponent of downplaying the WDC and playing up the Constructors Championship. 9 times out 10, It's a driver of the team that wins the CC that wins the WDC. When they don't, it's more about the #2 driver not being up to it that the #1 being better than anyone else. There isn't a direct correlation between the number of WDC a driver has and how good a driver he is. There are plenty of single win WDC champions that weren't great drivers.

[Tommy Cookers]

... but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)

Why not a single turbocharger? Nothing not solvable with a hot V, I think. Even if the "twin 3 inlines" is not ideal (which a 90⁰ V6 also is not), I cannot see any inconvenience with a flat plane V8.

an exhaust pressure pulse is productive for about 240 deg rotation and counterproductive for about 60 deg rotation
so 3 cylinders (per bank) is ideal in capturing high pressure and 2 or 4 cylinders (per bank) is inferior
ie a V8 of 90 degree bank angle should have 3 exhaust pulses per rev per bank at equal (240 deg) intervals

2 cylinders per bank firing at 240 degree intervals (first firing 0 deg second firing 240 deg)
then 2 cylinders per bank firing simultaneously (third firing 480 deg) will do this ....
a bit like a V12 cut down to V8 (of course that would give some engine frequency vibration)
but if the bank angle was 90 deg (with correct counterweighting) there would be no engine frequency vibration
yes there's a (smaller) vibration at twice engine frequency (about the same as the conventional flat-crank V8's)
this engine might only need 4 main bearings and 6 crank throws

all this assumes there's intent to maximise turbine work
eg for a so-called MGU-H or enabling leaner running than hitherto (this might depend on a higher explosive range fuel)
anything with a wastegate or a multiple-entry nozzle isn't trying to maximise turbine work