Reducing the outlandish cost of F1

[Tommy Cookers]

.... Maybe could had V8s or 120º V6 with the same technology for an even firing with a more appealing sound ....

those aren't good with a single MGU-H or other turbocharger

but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)
yes it would sound like an inline 3

[Waz]

JordanMugen offered a constructive point - the cars always looked the same. The argument was not about identical cars on a technical level.

The images posted illustrate this nicely.

Further, this is formula racing. It's all about the rules and finding innovative solutions within those rules or via a loophole.

[diffuser]

JordanMugen offered a constructive point - the cars always looked the same. The argument was not about identical cars on a technical level.

The images posted illustrate this nicely.

Further, this is formula racing. It's all about the rules and finding innovative solutions within those rules or via a loophole.

it's meant not to be easy.

[BassVirolla]

.... Maybe could had V8s or 120º V6 with the same technology for an even firing with a more appealing sound ....

those aren't good with a single MGU-H or other turbocharger

but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)
yes it would sound like an inline 3

Why not a single turbocharger? Nothing not solvable with a hot V, I think. Even if the "twin 3 inlines" is not ideal (which a 90⁰ V6 also is not), I cannot see any inconvenience with a flat plane V8.

[dans79]

Would you like to see races determined solely by driving skill?

Even in a spec series that doesn't happen a lot. The engineers always have some level of input into the cars performance . On top of that you have force majeure scenarios.

[diffuser]

Would you like to see races determined solely by driving skill?

Even in a spec series that doesn't happen a lot. The engineers always have some level of input into the cars performance . On top of that you have force majeure scenarios.

I was always a proponent of downplaying the WDC and playing up the Constructors Championship. 9 times out 10, It's a driver of the team that wins the CC that wins the WDC. When they don't, it's more about the #2 driver not being up to it that the #1 being better than anyone else. There isn't a direct correlation between the number of WDC a driver has and how good a driver he is. There are plenty of single win WDC champions that weren't great drivers.

[Tommy Cookers]

... but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)

Why not a single turbocharger? Nothing not solvable with a hot V, I think. Even if the "twin 3 inlines" is not ideal (which a 90⁰ V6 also is not), I cannot see any inconvenience with a flat plane V8.

an exhaust pressure pulse is productive for about 240 deg rotation and counterproductive for about 60 deg rotation
so 3 cylinders (per bank) is ideal in capturing high pressure and 2 or 4 cylinders (per bank) is inferior
a V8 90 degree bank angle having 3 exhaust pulses per rev per bank at equal (240 deg) intervals - any familiarity ?

2 crankpins for 2 conventional-intervals firings & 2 paired pins for (1 conventional-interval) simultaneous firing it is ..
like a V12 cut down to V8 (though of course that would give some engine frequency vibration)
but 90 deg bank angle & counterweighting gives no engine frequency force imbalance (ok a bit of moment imbalance)
yes (like the conventional flat-crank V8) there's a (smaller) vibration at twice engine frequency
the engine might only need 4 main bearings and 6 crank throws

all this assumes people want to maximise turbine work ...
eg for a so-called MGU-H or enabling leaner running than hitherto (this might depend on a higher explosive range fuel)
anything with a wastegate or a multiple-entry nozzle isn't trying to maximise turbine work