Reducing the outlandish cost of F1

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Tommy Cookers
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Re: Reducing the outlandish cost of F1

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BassVirolla wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 23:27
.... Maybe could had V8s or 120º V6 with the same technology for an even firing with a more appealing sound ....
those aren't good with a single MGU-H or other turbocharger

but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)
yes it would sound like an inline 3
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Waz
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JordanMugen offered a constructive point - the cars always looked the same. The argument was not about identical cars on a technical level.

The images posted illustrate this nicely.

Further, this is formula racing. It's all about the rules and finding innovative solutions within those rules or via a loophole.

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Re: Reducing the outlandish cost of F1

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Waz wrote:
17 Sep 2025, 15:28
JordanMugen offered a constructive point - the cars always looked the same. The argument was not about identical cars on a technical level.

The images posted illustrate this nicely.

Further, this is formula racing. It's all about the rules and finding innovative solutions within those rules or via a loophole.
it's meant not to be easy.

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Re: Reducing the outlandish cost of F1

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Tommy Cookers wrote:
17 Sep 2025, 14:46
BassVirolla wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 23:27
.... Maybe could had V8s or 120º V6 with the same technology for an even firing with a more appealing sound ....
those aren't good with a single MGU-H or other turbocharger

but a 120 deg V6 is possible with paired firings so behaving like an inline 3
(exhaust pulses arriving at the MGU-H/turbo at the ideal 240 deg intervals)
yes it would sound like an inline 3
Why not a single turbocharger? Nothing not solvable with a hot V, I think. Even if the "twin 3 inlines" is not ideal (which a 90⁰ V6 also is not), I cannot see any inconvenience with a flat plane V8.

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Alan wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 03:55
Would you like to see races determined solely by driving skill?
Even in a spec series that doesn't happen a lot. The engineers always have some level of input into the cars performance . On top of that you have force majeure scenarios.
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dans79 wrote:
17 Sep 2025, 22:04
Alan wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 03:55
Would you like to see races determined solely by driving skill?
Even in a spec series that doesn't happen a lot. The engineers always have some level of input into the cars performance . On top of that you have force majeure scenarios.
I was always a proponent of downplaying the WDC and playing up the Constructors Championship. 9 times out 10, It's a driver of the team that wins the CC that wins the WDC. When they don't, it's more about the #2 driver not being up to it that the #1 being better than anyone else. There isn't a direct correlation between the number of WDC a driver has and how good a driver he is. There are plenty of single win WDC champions that weren't great drivers.