RZS10 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:08 pm
This was posted in the Ferrari engine thread but i think it rather belongs here ...
SiLo wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:18 am
So this article is quite interesting regarding the FIA deal and the Ferrari engine:
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2020 ... refresh_ce
The best summary I could find (from Reddit):
1) Red Bull and Mercedes suspected faul play by Ferrari regarding the engine, but their clarifications asked from the FIA initially amounted to nothing.
2) A FIA-person, who was embedded at Ferrari found out the trick Ferrari was pulling off (bypassing the fuel flow sensor) and forwarded that information to either Mercedes (or Red Bull) who then asked the FIA for clarification, leading to the TD that nerfed Ferrari, and the FIA-Ferrari settlement.
3) To put that into context; the FIA can't issue technical clarifications of their own volition. A team needs to prompt the FIA, upon which they can issue a TD. This FIA-person therefore handed over this info about the Ferrari engine to Mercedes.. allegedly, which eventually led to the TD.
4) Ferrari felt betrayed by this FIA-person (who in their eyes illegally shared Ferrari IP with others) and feel that Toto's wrath was in retaliation to Ferrari vetoeing him as Chase Carey's successor as the head of Formula 1.
5) It is believed (by those in or close to Ferrari) that other (read: most likely Mercedes) engines still operate in a grey area, while Ferrari is now fielding the only truly legal engine.
If this is the wrong thread let me know and I can move it.
This has to be some of the dumbest most desperate rambling about this entire saga by a mile ... and of course it was published by some small unknown italian site ...
Does anyone believe the FIA would install a spy(!) at a team just because the other teams think said team might be bending the rules? And then the FIA would give the info to another team so that the team could ask for further clarification (after initial requests were pretty much ignored?)
Didn't the FIA say they'd gladly make the settlement public but that Ferrari wouldn't allow it? They sure as hell wouldn't want that if the spy (lol) thing was true ...
Oh and the "everyone else is cheating and Ferrari is the only legal engine" bit? The cherry on top in this wonderful piece of fiction.
It's sad actually how italian outlets are deflecting and trying to paint the red team as a victim in some sort of conspiracy.
But it's the next logical step in the bs stories written by italian media:
"there's nothing to the story"
"there was a whistleblower but there's still nothing to the story"
"there was a whistleblower and there was a settlement but there's still nothing to the story"
"there was a whistleblower and there was a settlement but it's actually more about the other teams and protecting Ferrari's IP and there's still nothing to the story"
"there was a whistleblower and there was a settlement but it's actually more about the other teams and protecting Ferrari's IP, Ferrari's new engine is actually more powerful and there's still nothing to the story"
*reality says hello and the engine is down on power, potentially the worst in the field and Binotto admits they've lost power*
"there was a SPY! and there was a settlement because of the spy and we're the victims here and the other teams are cheating"
The FIA person has told this story to the journalist, but it was someone inside Ferrari (a spy/ a mole) to inform the other teams and then the FIA which then has made the investigation and has issued the TDs .
This phrase “Qualcuno ha fatto avere alla FIA alcuni documenti che dimostravano come la Ferrari interpretasse il regolamento in modo troppo ‘audace’. Una talpa, in accordo con i concorrenti del Cavallino, ha permesso che la Federazione internazionale riaprisse l’inchiesta tecnica riguardo al motore. Si è trattato di una palese violazione del segreto industriale e questo fa comprendere il motivo del famigerato accordo. La Ferrari non ha ricevuto penalizzazioni, ma ha dovuto accettare di eliminare quella soluzione.”
"Someone gave the FIA some documents that showed how Ferrari interpreted the regulation too" boldly ". A mole, in agreement with Cavallino's competitors, allowed the International Federation to reopen the technical investigation into the engine. It was a clear violation of industrial secrecy and this makes us understand the reason for the notorious agreement. Ferrari did not receive penalties, but had to agree to eliminate that solution. "
The above was pasted from Xwang in the Ferrari Engine thread. Whilst I know it may sound ridiculous it looks like there is some truth to it. It's starting to come together and make sense now. Something was leaked illegally, and the only way to punish the team because the thing that was leaked was also illegal, is to just close down that avenue of cheating but not really publish what was happening. I'm sure most of the teams have a good idea of what was going on, but likely are pushing because they want more specifics.