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BloodLad91
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Here's an article explaining updates.
http://gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/358327/t ... sh-device/

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Is there also a new nose? I've seen a picture of it but can't find it back.

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wesley123 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:07 pm
BloodLad91 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:30 pm
wesley123 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:18 pm
I'm not sure what the point of that would be, certainly if you consider the cut-out in the rear wing flap that, I believe, every team runs.

Also, the T-wing would be in it's path, so if anything this vortex would affect the T-wing and not the rear wing.
And even if it would make a sharp downward turn, it would hit the rear wing pillar.

I don't think generating a vortex in this area would be beneficial for the rear wing, especially when this could be done closer to the rear wing.
The vortex collectively generated by fins on either side will pass underneath t- wing and onto rear wing, the midwing above airbox will help it by creating downwash.
Doubt that as it would need to travel a long way down, plus generate a large vortex(and not a strong one) that would be influenced by the low pressure zone of the T-wing.

There doesn't seem much point to actually generating a vortex there if you also consider the free area that allows the T-wing and that the rear wing is much bigger than only the center.
It DEFINITELY is a vortex generator. If you look at it from a flow point of view each little winglet trips the air and successive tiny vortices rool in a big one. Anywhere you see such features it is a vortex they are making. The picket fence method does it more efficienctly that is why teams heavily adopt it.

Where the vorted goes and what it does need a more detailed look though.

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Can they use this upgrade next year without Sharkfin?

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NAPI10 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:48 pm
Can they use this upgrade next year without Sharkfin?
They can use it next year.
Shark fin will be ban next year but there will be small fin along spine of engine cover to meet regulations,which we already seen on last year's cars.
They can put it along spine of engine cover's fin and it will work better for next year's car, since fin follows downward path towards exhaust.
Also other team's will look into it for next year.

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They're keeping the shark fin for next year potentially anyway.

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Perez and ocon were running different floors with different floor slots in front of rear wheel.
Ocon had Mercedes like floor slots while Perez with only one metal coated floor slot(don't know if it was a floor slot).

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Are they getting new Engine spec for Sepang?

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http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 23457.html

This article in automotor und sport has Andrew Greene saying the upgrade is success and bought 0.6 sec to car.
The failure in qualifying is down to using
Q1 tyres in Q2, when they saw how much track improved it was too late.

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BloodLad91 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:50 pm
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 23457.html

This article in automotor und sport has Andrew Greene saying the upgrade is success and bought 0.6 sec to car.
The failure in qualifying is down to using
Q1 tyres in Q2, when they saw how much track improved it was too late.
A big advantage, but they did bring a new diffuser also, so did that play a part as well? But it's good to hear the saw-fish sharkfin engine cover is working because sharkfins are going to stay for the 2018 season as well and more teams will implement this design or something close to it!

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NAPI10 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:40 pm
Are they getting new Engine spec for Sepang?
New aero bits and latest and final Mercedes engine spec for Sepang! =D>

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13202 ... e-upgrades

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IamLegend wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:12 pm
NAPI10 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:40 pm
Are they getting new Engine spec for Sepang?
New aero bits and latest and final Mercedes engine spec for Sepang! =D>

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13202 ... e-upgrades
Seems like they have lots of update which didn't go on car cause of an early correlation problem.

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