we are seeing diferent tracks behaviourringo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:16 amThe mechanical grip is good with the Ferrari. Watch the videos in detail. In fact it has better mechanical grip than the mercedes. Where i think it is failing is turn in after braking and mid corner; the front end of the car just isn't strong. When it does leave the corner, it actually accelerates quite well on exit, so i think the grip is fine. The problem is aero balance and maybe overall downforce.mmred wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:44 pmsince the problem is not aero but mechanical grip at low speed you are clearly wrongdjones wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:42 pm
If the Ferrari/Alfa concept is indeed geared towards low downforce on purpose then it will only ever be a one trick pony.
Not just a new front/rear wing would be needed, but an entirely new spec of car with the traditional concept of Mercedes and Redbull.
I.e. This season is already over for them.
At the last race Ferrari were fastest. But I honestly think this was a case of Mercedes not getting the car working, rather than Ferrari being fast per se.
look it s the famous english news say: it s been years they always pretend the italians have the worst aero... but if you look closely mostly it was the opposite, at least from 2 years the real problem for the italians are tyres and suspensions while they excel on fast corners where aero is needed. it s most selfexaltation from brit newspapers, just that.
it s always complex to say what is the key factor here, but if you loose on straight it s the engine, if you lose on fast corner it prevails the aero, if you lose on slow corners that s where suspensions are the key, guess what s happening now and deduce the problem
The front wing is designed very high in the middle section between the wheels. This is compensation for the small surface are at the outerpart of the wing. So the wing makes similar downforce as the mercedes front wing, it is just distributed differently. The problem is that it makes the downforce between the wheels and downstream of that is the bargeboards. Maybe what is happening is that this highly cambered wing in the middle is resulting in poorer quality air flow between the fronts wheels and towards the barge boards than is the case with the mercedes.
For mercedes and redbull the downforce of the front wing is evenly distributed across its width, and they dont have this agressively cambered middle section which means they have less disturbed flow going between the wheels and onto the barge baords.
For ferrari to address this, they would require a front wing similar to mercedes, or do some more work on the barge boards.
I think they can roll something out in 4 race's time.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3YC8x3W0AA ... name=small
to add to promoting more flow to the barge board area, they can opt for a mercedes type nose tip that is narrow.
it is fast on the exit but not just right after it and it sacrifies the entry so te overall speed is lower and there at 90 kmh airpin it s not an aero business
will they change frontwing tough? probabl yes... it increases fron tyres drag s what s the overall meaning of it i dont know, but the rest of the aero is fine, even better at fast corners