Just_a_fan wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:11 am
Sieper wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Yes, that was a really comfortable way to loose track position to Albon. My point is not that he indeed chose a spot where you can bail out. In fact, Max was also trying to line up for this same spot against Perez. No, my point is that now the perogative is he was sensibly waiting it out, I don’t think that was the aim. He just lost two spots to vettel and Verstappen after the T9 off track excursion , that caused him to be further down. Then he lost one more position to Albon after the Vettel attempt. He was trying but not succeeding in the first stint. Then he could stay out and his tires worn as the track got a little dryer (still wet) just as he was there and not in the Mix.
And Lewis was sure trying tombe there, track position was king, that is also why he took quite some risk with Riccardo at the start. The fact it was a bit unsuccessful in the end aided his victory chances.
Lewis was trying an overtake on Vettel because he was quicker than Vettel. Getting past him would have aided him to get and keep even more tyre temperature. Being stuck behind Vettel wasn't helping him. So he tried an overtake in a safe place, and bailed out when it was obviously not going to work out. And he lost a spot. But that was all he lost. His earlier loss of track position at T9 was because his tyres were not working properly. But he didn't lose anything other than a couple of places, no harm done, carry on.
Compare to Max's attempt to pass Perez (who he was quicker than just as Hamilton was quicker than Vettel) that resulted in a big spin - could have been race ending had it gone towards the barriers over the grass - a loss of places to Albon, Vettel and Hamilton behind plus an additional loss of track time by having to pit to replace flat spotted tyres. That was just down to Max being impatient and not thinking through what might happen. That corner, T11, was very wet and any instability in the car would likely result in a spin. So crossing the wake of the car in front at that point was just asking for a big spin. And that's what he got. It was a great save to avoid the crossing the grass in to the barrier.
Two attempts to overtake with very different outcomes - caused by a different level of experience I think. Lewis has made those mistakes in the past, Max is making them now. Max will, hopefully, learn and take that experience forward. We will all watch with interest to see if he does.
Max was doing just the same on Perez as Lewis with Vettel, lining up for a overtake attempt in the exact same corner. The "problem" here was, the reason Max went for it, was that Perez made a mistake in T9 (like later in the race (much worse that time) where he again refused to go around the bollard) so Max got very close already too early in the shallow turn coming on to that straight. In fact, I think the more inexperienced Max would have put him next to Perez already in that corner. Now he lined up but got too close. A slight misjudgment of relative speed. He needed to be very close to make it work (if you are not the same happens as with Lewis on Vettel, it wont work and you'll have to abort) but he was a bit too close just too early. In fact, If he had missed his attempt like Lewis I am quite sure he would have also been chastised.
And doing it on engine power on that straight is easier for a Mercedes against a Ferrari then for a Honda against a Mercedes. Keep that in mind please when judging the decision making process. He had to try his (maybe one) chance or remain stuck behind Perez and see Stroll drive away for the victory.
It failed, cost him dearly but I don't think it was such a bad decision. If he wanted to win he needed to overtake.