izzy wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:57 am
Espresso wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:21 am
And mistakes are prone to driver ability or driving your car at/over the limit.
Leclerc was not driving the car near the limit.
In Hockenheim he made mistakes at the same corner again and again, apart from the small ones the 3rd big mistake got him.
And sadly he had a chance to recover it, in Brundle's words:"If he didn't break he could've got out like Kimmi...".
I don't think it was a freely Ferrari decision.
It's a Nicolas Todt (and thus Jean Todt, FIA) very heavy influenced politically guided advise upon which Ferrari had to decide.
LeClerc said he was ready and ( hid management and Ferrari) told to be ready and mature. Same caliber as Max they say. As thus you can expect the same of him and criticize him equally upon his behavior und performance.
Take the seat? Then face the world...
Ferrari shot themselves deeply in the foot but not in an obvious way. As they lost the best simulator pairing ever (Giovinazzi & Kvyat). Upon loosing Kvyat they should have at least retained Giovinazzi.
It's clear they lost their magical overnight impressive improvements
so valued by Seb.
I've got a feeling that if they were still in that role the car would have been more stable and drivable already.
Imho the missing link this year...
Well Max had a spin
He is obviously an awesome talent but so far what has he achieved? 6 wins and a lot of excitement and controversy. It's all potential, same as Charles but a year on. Last time I saw Todt he was standing next to Toto in the Mercedes garage, and it's pretty obvious to me Ferrari simply did what Red Bull did with Max and took Charles a bit early, to make sure they got him. Charles is all about NEXT year, he's 21 and there's no point expecting a series of perfect weekends now. The youngest ever WDC is 2 years older and the average is about 30, that's because they need to mature to have the consistency and control their aggression effectively.
I don't see how Ferrari could keep race drivers like Daniil and Gio in the sim forever, and who do Red Bull and Mercedes use in their sims? If there's a mistake it's developing a system that depends so much on individual sim drivers, but I'm not 100% sure that's the case. The car itself is the best thing in Ferrari, I reckon, as long as it's reliable.
That's comparing apples with pears and adding some other fruit in the mix.
Put it into perspective please. Max had a couple of spins as he was testing different kinds of setups and finding the limits. How good is he? Ask Nico's Rosberg aftermath of the Qualification of Hungary.
Max vs Charles:
Charles and Max started at the same age. They have been battling it out and when they were young it was quite an even battle.
They will be battling it out for a long time but Charles seems to be a few years behing atm.
They should be comparable, but you compare a 21 year old Charles (Ferrari) to and 18 year old Max (Red Bull) Be honest if you have been criticizing Max while he was 18. Then do the same to Charles.
Just referring back to Rosberg above.
And especially when you go to Ferrari, you need to be more then ready. But all-in-all it's a political game. The scene has been set by Todt&Todt and Ferrari will revolve around LeClerc.
No matter what we think, that's the next chapter.
(Yes I didn't like it at all when they let (my favourite driver) Kimmi go
WDC and age:
The youngest WDC and 'age 30'...is kinda old news. The world has progressed in time.
Red Bull has been setting a trend for training young guns, taking the risk and putting them in a seat (without the need for a big bag of money). This turned out successful and other teams copied the system. They saw what happened and had to get into that race.
Ferrari lagging all the time accepting/assimilating new technologies. Same for sim drivers. Whilst other teams incorporate both e-sport drivers and a mix of current drivers....it took Ferrari a while to welcome change and incorporate it.
Off course its tough to keep sim drivers. But they are a crucial part and Ferrari have to step up their game. So far Wehrlein is not delivering as sim driver.
Sim drivers have a crucial part as they can test 'unlimited' to find out with setups works well in 'actual conditions'. Good sim-drivers (not always good on-track) give usable feed back that can be used on-track. In 2018 on Saturday Ferrari always made a jump forward. This season....they've lost that overnight magical advantage.
And when you miss this progress you (what Max did and does) have your drivers drive themselves and their card on and over the limit. With accidents prone to happen.
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