2026 Aerodynamic & Chassis Regulations

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FW17
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FIA should have replaced the barge board with a standardized front wheel wake deflector, like the element 5 in formula e

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FW17 wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:29
FIA should have replaced the barge board with a standardized front wheel wake deflector, like the element 5 in formula e

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The bargeboard is the single most interesting aerodynamic element on an F1 car. Getting rid of it would be a massive shame. Even the pseudo-bargeboard we have now is the most interesting piece of the car.

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FW17 wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:29
FIA should have replaced the barge board with a standardized front wheel wake deflector, like the element 5 in formula e

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The whole point of 'open wheel formula' in general and the 'inwashing bargeboard' in particular for 2026, is to present an aerodynamic challenge to the designer. That's the whole point of F1, to make the engineering 'hard'.

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venkyhere wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:42
FW17 wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:29
FIA should have replaced the barge board with a standardized front wheel wake deflector, like the element 5 in formula e

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... N9sfs&s=10
The whole point of 'open wheel formula' in general and the 'inwashing bargeboard' in particular for 2026, is to present an aerodynamic challenge to the designer. That's the whole point of F1, to make the engineering 'hard'.
If hard is the case, then the whole listed parts and customer engine should be abandoned by FIA.

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FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 12:33
venkyhere wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:42
FW17 wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:29
FIA should have replaced the barge board with a standardized front wheel wake deflector, like the element 5 in formula e

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... N9sfs&s=10
The whole point of 'open wheel formula' in general and the 'inwashing bargeboard' in particular for 2026, is to present an aerodynamic challenge to the designer. That's the whole point of F1, to make the engineering 'hard'.
If hard is the case, then the whole listed parts and customer engine should be abandoned by FIA.
Cost is also a factor to be considered. Some off the shelf parts are necessary to make F1 work within the confines of the cost cap.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 13:33
FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 12:33
venkyhere wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:42


The whole point of 'open wheel formula' in general and the 'inwashing bargeboard' in particular for 2026, is to present an aerodynamic challenge to the designer. That's the whole point of F1, to make the engineering 'hard'.
If hard is the case, then the whole listed parts and customer engine should be abandoned by FIA.
Cost is also a factor to be considered. Some off the shelf parts are necessary to make F1 work within the confines of the cost cap.
Teams that are worth 3 billion do not have the capability to build their owin gearbox and suspension components.

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FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 14:05
bananapeel23 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 13:33
FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 12:33


If hard is the case, then the whole listed parts and customer engine should be abandoned by FIA.
Cost is also a factor to be considered. Some off the shelf parts are necessary to make F1 work within the confines of the cost cap.
Teams that are worth 3 billion do not have the capability to build their owin gearbox and suspension components.
Money that only exists on paper is hard to spend!
"In downforce we trust"

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FW17
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djos wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 14:13
FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 14:05
bananapeel23 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 13:33


Cost is also a factor to be considered. Some off the shelf parts are necessary to make F1 work within the confines of the cost cap.
Teams that are worth 3 billion do not have the capability to build their owin gearbox and suspension components.
Money that only exists on paper is hard to spend!

It is unwillingness to spend on the business, but the owners can spend on themselves.

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FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 16:04
djos wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 14:13
FW17 wrote:
20 Jul 2026, 14:05


Teams that are worth 3 billion do not have the capability to build their owin gearbox and suspension components.
Money that only exists on paper is hard to spend!

It is unwillingness to spend on the business, but the owners can spend on themselves.
The only way the teams can access the "value" of their business is to sell shares in the company or borrow money against the value of their business. The 1st option dilutes their ownership, and the second option needs to be paid back out existing revenue sources - it's not as simple as it sounds.
"In downforce we trust"

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venkyhere wrote:
17 Jul 2026, 17:54
So they have made the RW smaller, hoping that it will reduce superclip duration and make the energy requirement lesser. But it does reduce downforce, and might end up penalizing the recharging under braking and through corners. In which case, what to make of it ? is it going to improve or worsen laptimes (w.r.t 2026) on a "typical" track, like Bahrain/Barcelona ?

what is that green element for 2027 ? cross-member reinforcement for the twin tower RW supports ?
Of course it worsen laptimes. Because otherwise the teams would run the smaller wing already. Is is the same with the introduced lower reacharge limits. It might look more "normal" now, but it is not good for laptimes.