Andres125sx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:16 am
AeroDynamic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:04 am
Very interesting to see Sainz doing so well, it’s going to upset someone if he upstages Charles. He is the marketable one, and the Ferrari golden child. But not to worry yet from his perspective, Ferrari know Charles lost some big points that came down to fortune not being on his side. So it’s not like Sainz, despite maybe finishing ahead come Abu Dhabi, looks like the right horse to back to lead a championship.
Sainz also lost some big points that came down to fortune not being on his side. Poor pitstops have been too frequent and costly in his side of the garage. Except Mexico it was 3 races in a row, plus some more previously and those are a lot of points
Also for whatever reason this season has been very very difficult for drivers with new cars, even for some with loads of experience (Perez, Alonso, Ricciardo, Sainz...). All suffered on first third/half of the season, loosing a lot of points too until they got used to their cars, and that cost Sainz a lot of points too
With both drivers with previous experience with the car, and similiar pitstop problems, Sainz would be ahead of Charles in the table for sure
I don’t agree with what you’re saying exactly, but I can concede sainz has lost points too. I’d have to analyse it to form an opinion about how their misfortune stacks up but I’m not especially motivated. I just know that right now, Leclerc has a DNF which wasn’t his fault, and Sainz inherited points from him on that occasion. Sainz also didn’t shine that day and I Think Charles probably might have been able to impress and fight for a higher position if he was still in the race after turn 1. Russia was a coin flip and some people won. You take these into account and it does flatter their places on the standings. But again, I’m not knocking Sainz, he’s done outstanding in his maiden Ferrari drives as a new driver to the team.
That’s an assumption about Sainz. There’s too many variables you’re glossing over about that.
Perez joined a team with a car that arguably has the most narrow happy spot to drive in, a car built and tailored so closely to just one drivers driving and input footprint. Making it very difficult for others to get comfortable with a car that demands you match the rhythm of another driver instead of your own. Perez has experience but he’s not an elite, and he had been used to one car, engine and team for many years before moving to red bull.
Alonso has been out of formula 1 for two years, so that alone makes it inappropriate to use him as an example of adapting to a new car / team, and if anything it goes against what you want to use him for; he’s adapted well and quickly given the context of him being out of F1 cars for those years and coming to a new car.
I’ll give you Ricciardo, but by this point, he’s just one example. So, with such a small sample Size to truly judge this on, that’s no bueno.
Some drivers are more adaptable than others, given Sainz has been on a merry go round of teams in his career, I think he has good experience adapting to different techniques. He’s never stayed in one environment for many years. And he just might be one of those drivers. So, in essence, he might be close to the ceiling of his best performance at Ferrari, or closer than you’re estimating, rather than being far away from it in the beginning. It’s not like his performance has been night and day from early in the season till now..which supports what I’m suggesting.