AeroDynamic wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:02 pm
Sieper wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:57 pm
AeroDynamic wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:47 pm
Do you? Or Horner?
How else did max damage his wing? We saw it with Pierre and the kerbs killed several tyres.
I did see the damage on his front left wing. There was a small chip on the front side. It was there very early in the race already. I personally think it happened right away when he had to make room for Alonso. There was a small moment when he came on track again.
Could also happen on the kerbs, for sure max was on there at least one time on the race (shown in the live feed) and with high rake the FW is closer to the ground so there is more danger.
But I am not the one selling the Lewis is smart and stays of the kerbs and that is the only reason dumb Max who took the risk lap after lap and only that way he could keep up without a shred of proof.
Sierper, there was no intention behind my comments to say Max was being dumb. Only that Max took powerful FL and Lewis’ hands may have been tied in the situation, as he was being risk adverse about the kerbs. Max’s damage suggests to me he was using more track to find the time, that’s all.
If you keep assuming everyone has an agenda, you will simply read into things that aren’t there. Like looking at ghosts
I don’t think his wing damaged from Alonso, I don’t think they made contact and I think only his rear right wheel went onto the Astroturf. I don’t recall sparks there? I also think max suggests it happened a few laps in, no? His pace was good in the first laps, I’m sure I remember his pace changing a bit after that.
Thanks for that, it is not a question of assuming so much then that there are a handfull of guys who really don’t do anything else. But thanks for coming back and taking the trouble to explain. This shows to me you are not one of those so I don’t need to be guarded when reading your replies.
Alonso and Max did not touch but he did make an evasive manoeuvre, one that was not very easy to make imho, he had to react super quick and came on the slippery stuff). I did not see sparks there either when he came back but cannot be sure he damaged the wing there already.
It did happen early on as I spotted the damage at the first pitstop. Didn’t seem like much, I just saw a paint chip. He did end up on the kerbs at least one time that I saw. And with high rake, yes, that is extra dangerous. There wasn’t much to win with hanging with Lewis.
Max his pace in all 3 stints was very consistent. Look how broad his laps with virtually the same laptime were:
https://f1bythenumbers.com/storage/2021 ... p_10-1.svg
Look at some other races as well, he always has these consistent laptimes.
Lewis f.e. After warming up his tires in lap 2 and 3 (lap 1 is the formation lap) also had slow lap 4 and 5. Whatever the reason. He was in free air. Maybe building the heat or maybe a small miss. Max still had traffic with Alonso and Gasly. Sure, no fights, but you do first have to line them up for the straight so that lap can cost a bit.
Point being, max’ pace was fine and consistent all race. No sudden drop off.
Controversy does not have a short memory.