Mercedes dropped some video footage which shows the wake in motion.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:07So far:
Merc / Mclaren / Williams using a tight, centerline cooling concept. Aston Martin in a totally different direction, but if the rumor of Dan Fallows (I give 5% credibility to rumors) isn't happy, that provide some clues.
Ferrari / Haas / Alfa Romeo, not nearly as tight as packaging. Big side pods with varying degrees of undercut. Maybe Ferrari trusts how much their PU is making now and can go with what I am imaging is a much draggier concept. Or maybe they are struggling some with cooling.
AT and RBR, based on the spy photos, look to be using a concept like Merc / Mclaren / Williams. That would suggest like Merc, Honda has been able to shrink the packaging and work on cooling efficiency.
Renault is the real wild card.
It shows some things, but the weight of water makes it hard to see anything useful.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:55Mercedes dropped some video footage which shows the wake in motion.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:07So far:
Merc / Mclaren / Williams using a tight, centerline cooling concept. Aston Martin in a totally different direction, but if the rumor of Dan Fallows (I give 5% credibility to rumors) isn't happy, that provide some clues.
Ferrari / Haas / Alfa Romeo, not nearly as tight as packaging. Big side pods with varying degrees of undercut. Maybe Ferrari trusts how much their PU is making now and can go with what I am imaging is a much draggier concept. Or maybe they are struggling some with cooling.
AT and RBR, based on the spy photos, look to be using a concept like Merc / Mclaren / Williams. That would suggest like Merc, Honda has been able to shrink the packaging and work on cooling efficiency.
Renault is the real wild card.
Not to mention that it was smartphone footage that was then butchered even more by twitter!Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 18:01It shows some things, but the weight of water makes it hard to see anything useful.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:55Mercedes dropped some video footage which shows the wake in motion.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:07So far:
Merc / Mclaren / Williams using a tight, centerline cooling concept. Aston Martin in a totally different direction, but if the rumor of Dan Fallows (I give 5% credibility to rumors) isn't happy, that provide some clues.
Ferrari / Haas / Alfa Romeo, not nearly as tight as packaging. Big side pods with varying degrees of undercut. Maybe Ferrari trusts how much their PU is making now and can go with what I am imaging is a much draggier concept. Or maybe they are struggling some with cooling.
AT and RBR, based on the spy photos, look to be using a concept like Merc / Mclaren / Williams. That would suggest like Merc, Honda has been able to shrink the packaging and work on cooling efficiency.
Renault is the real wild card.
Difficult to tell how comparatively wet it is - the high wind will also probably disperse the water in the air fasterAeroDynamic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:55Mercedes dropped some video footage which shows the wake in motion.
Is it just me, or is the vapour diffusing relatively quickly to what we've seen before?
Do you have an idea how much more powerful is the ground effect compared to last years cars in cfd ?jjn9128 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 18:53Difficult to tell how comparatively wet it is - the high wind will also probably disperse the water in the air fasterAeroDynamic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:55Mercedes dropped some video footage which shows the wake in motion.
Is it just me, or is the vapour diffusing relatively quickly to what we've seen before?
There is not more ground effect - just utilized differently.
how about goPro 1080p?dans79 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 18:03Not to mention that it was smartphone footage that was then butchered even more by twitter!Hoffman900 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 18:01It shows some things, but the weight of water makes it hard to see anything useful.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 17:55
Mercedes dropped some video footage which shows the wake in motion.
I think 2:44 shows more.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 17:37Here is are some vortices you can see clearer..
The rear wing has a more stronger vortex generation because of its size and pressure difference across its sharp edges.
At the core of the vortex also is a higher sheer rate so it can move those finer water droplets now...
Go to 1:55 in the video.
https://streamable.com/g8mypx
Look at the thumbnail picture there. It’s like the sidepods have just been completely removed. Amazing packaging.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 17:37Here is are some vortices you can see clearer..
The rear wing has a more stronger vortex generation because of its size and pressure difference across its sharp edges.
At the core of the vortex also is a higher sheer rate so it can move those finer water droplets now...
Go to 1:55 in the video.
https://streamable.com/g8mypx
Dont think you're really seeing vortices there, well i certainly cant anyway, just a general wakePlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 17:37Here is are some vortices you can see clearer..
The rear wing has a more stronger vortex generation because of its size and pressure difference across its sharp edges.
At the core of the vortex also is a higher sheer rate so it can move those finer water droplets now...
Go to 1:55 in the video.
https://streamable.com/g8mypx
This is as good as it's gonna get with water spray...Mchamilton wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 18:58Dont think you're really seeing vortices there, well i certainly cant anyway, just a general wakePlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 17:37Here is are some vortices you can see clearer..
The rear wing has a more stronger vortex generation because of its size and pressure difference across its sharp edges.
At the core of the vortex also is a higher sheer rate so it can move those finer water droplets now...
Go to 1:55 in the video.
https://streamable.com/g8mypx
No you can change wings - but what is presented for scrutineering has to be carried through a race - so no DF level changes after Friday AM.