Red Bull RB18 Speculation Thread

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f1316 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:03 am
If what’s shown is indeed a t-wing - and tbh, I think it might be - it’ll only be as important as the old t-wings were (ie a little bit but far from essential and often not even run depending on the circuit). Maybe with these rear wings it has a bit more value but not a game changer.

It’s also highly copyable, so I suppose - if RB are the only ones who spotted the loophole - it makes sense that they don’t want others to see it until absolutely necessary (even if it is only a small advantage, they’ll take that wherever they can).
I don't think so. Because we have very powerful floors this years it might be, that this device works with upper surface of diffuser or with beam wing, which helps with dlownof under floor.

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f1316 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:03 am
If what’s shown is indeed a t-wing - and tbh, I think it might be - it’ll only be as important as the old t-wings were (ie a little bit but far from essential and often not even run depending on the circuit). Maybe with these rear wings it has a bit more value but not a game changer.

It’s also highly copyable, so I suppose - if RB are the only ones who spotted the loophole - it makes sense that they don’t want others to see it until absolutely necessary (even if it is only a small advantage, they’ll take that wherever they can).
Where is this t-wing? What color is it? If the pictures are to be trusted, this t-wing changes colors and shapes depending on which low quality image you look at. I'm sure that this is just an artifact of the low quality images we used - if you look at this image which is relatively clear, you can see no such wing but there is a slight sharkfin which is what confuses people.

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There won't be a T-wing. Why would RB have a controversial piece on the car for a shakedown, which is super simple to bold on and off. Wouldn't they keep that hidden till the last moment?

It is all just blurriness on the pictures IMHO.

The most intriguing parts are the front suspension geometry and the sidepods.
The latter still guess work, but the impression is that it is a piece of art. The front suspension is mostly visible on the pictures and is something special.

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Looks like Red Bull have done the same as Mercedes and made the outer turning vane in to a bargeboard. Both designs have a tall panel where others just have a small vane.
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marcel171281 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:15 am
There won't be a T-wing. Why would RB have a controversial piece on the car for a shakedown, which is super simple to bold on and off. Wouldn't they keep that hidden till the last moment?

It is all just blurriness on the pictures IMHO.

The most intriguing parts are the front suspension geometry and the sidepods.
The latter still guess work, but the impression is that it is a piece of art. The front suspension is mostly visible on the pictures and is something special.
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tmoneyr007 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:10 pm
marcel171281 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:15 am
There won't be a T-wing. Why would RB have a controversial piece on the car for a shakedown, which is super simple to bold on and off. Wouldn't they keep that hidden till the last moment?

It is all just blurriness on the pictures IMHO.

The most intriguing parts are the front suspension geometry and the sidepods.
The latter still guess work, but the impression is that it is a piece of art. The front suspension is mostly visible on the pictures and is something special.
https://flic.kr/p/2n4EjRS
https://flic.kr/p/2n4EjRS
that could quite easily be a shark fin with a camera attached

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FittingMechanics wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:22 am
f1316 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:03 am
If what’s shown is indeed a t-wing - and tbh, I think it might be - it’ll only be as important as the old t-wings were (ie a little bit but far from essential and often not even run depending on the circuit). Maybe with these rear wings it has a bit more value but not a game changer.

It’s also highly copyable, so I suppose - if RB are the only ones who spotted the loophole - it makes sense that they don’t want others to see it until absolutely necessary (even if it is only a small advantage, they’ll take that wherever they can).
Where is this t-wing? What color is it? If the pictures are to be trusted, this t-wing changes colors and shapes depending on which low quality image you look at. I'm sure that this is just an artifact of the low quality images we used - if you look at this image which is relatively clear, you can see no such wing but there is a slight sharkfin which is what confuses people.

https://i.imgur.com/jQAJK09.jpg
If it does exist - and by no means am I saying it does, just that from the (very bad) images we have, I think there might well be something there - then it appears to be a small piece of black bodywork.

So the image you have chosen is not a great one for that given there’s a likelihood that any black would be obscured by the black of the rear wing.

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Aren't almost all of those '''high quality''' images/videos just upscaled versions of the potato quality ones? The algorithms could easily introduce elements which aren't really there ...

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They really have gone too far with that floor interpretation have they? Fashioning a barge board and a massive one at that might attract the attention if Ross Brawn and his scissors...
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tmoneyr007 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:10 pm
marcel171281 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:15 am
There won't be a T-wing. Why would RB have a controversial piece on the car for a shakedown, which is super simple to bold on and off. Wouldn't they keep that hidden till the last moment?

It is all just blurriness on the pictures IMHO.

The most intriguing parts are the front suspension geometry and the sidepods.
The latter still guess work, but the impression is that it is a piece of art. The front suspension is mostly visible on the pictures and is something special.
https://flic.kr/p/2n4EjRS
https://flic.kr/p/2n4EjRS
there was something like this
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:09 am
They really have gone too far with that floor interpretation have they? Fashioning a barge board and a massive one at that might attract the attention if Ross Brawn and his scissors...
Well I'm sure whatever they have done fits in the new legality box so?

We don't even know what the car actually looks like yet to come to that conclusion unless there are new images I haven't seen.

You trying to stir the pot here?

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tmoneyr007 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:10 pm
marcel171281 wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:15 am
There won't be a T-wing. Why would RB have a controversial piece on the car for a shakedown, which is super simple to bold on and off. Wouldn't they keep that hidden till the last moment?

It is all just blurriness on the pictures IMHO.

The most intriguing parts are the front suspension geometry and the sidepods.
The latter still guess work, but the impression is that it is a piece of art. The front suspension is mostly visible on the pictures and is something special.
https://flic.kr/p/2n4EjRS
https://flic.kr/p/2n4EjRS
Still the quality is so poor, you cannot even see the rear wing pillar. That is, if RB has a conventional pillar, it's not visible.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:09 am
They really have gone too far with that floor interpretation have they? Fashioning a barge board and a massive one at that might attract the attention if Ross Brawn and his scissors...
Somebody down-voted me, and this was there explanation

All cars have been approved by FIA. You know this, was posted in multiple threads.
You make an interesting argument. When you say all cars approved? Please be specific. Crash structures, the engine? Every single part? And ask yourself why have scrutineering then?

Obviously this ideal approval that you speak does not exist. Parts don't have to be approved for a team to use them. It is in their best interest to follow the rules, of course, because they will be penalized, but teams have brought parts to races that were caught by scrutineering or by other teams. Cars have thousands of parts. Look at Ferrari's ill fated fuel system. That was a tip from another team to the FIA. Sauber brought wings whose surface were to small in curvature, caught in scrutineering. Racing Point had a hole in the up-right for aerodynamic purposes that had to be covered up. etc. etc. So many recent examples.

And another thing too, cars aero don't have to be legal for testing reasons. We may see quite a number of protests during the testing period and especially in the first race.
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Notable design features on the RB18:

Car has a front wing
Car has a rear wing
Car appears to have 4 wheels and tires
Car has side pods shaped in such a manner that they ingest air
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dren wrote:
Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:18 pm
Notable design features on the RB18:

Car has a front wing
Car has a rear wing
Car appears to have 4 wheels and tires
Car has side pods shaped in such a manner that they ingest air
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