2022 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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P34 wrote:
11 May 2022, 10:42
PlatinumZealot wrote:
10 May 2022, 18:54
The FIA allows wedding rings, the riskiest of all jewelry! So you see the hypocrisy there.

This little knob that might as well be a wart is what all the furore is about?
In case of a big shunt you want to have someones head, neck or body going tru a MRI scan asap, impossible if you wear jewelry there…. (mentioned by a dutch reporter, no credits here).
That material doesn't affect MRI or cat-scan they say. A small chunk of platinum. Remember there are people with dental and skeletal braces too. Are dental braces banned too? See, there is no logic to it. There needs to be a review of what sorts of materials and forms of Jewelry are allowed. Checks all the boxes? You're good to go race.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 May 2022, 17:15
P34 wrote:
11 May 2022, 10:42
PlatinumZealot wrote:
10 May 2022, 18:54
The FIA allows wedding rings, the riskiest of all jewelry! So you see the hypocrisy there.

This little knob that might as well be a wart is what all the furore is about?
In case of a big shunt you want to have someones head, neck or body going tru a MRI scan asap, impossible if you wear jewelry there…. (mentioned by a dutch reporter, no credits here).
That material doesn't affect MRI or cat-scan they say. A small chunk of platinum. Remember there are people with dental and skeletal braces too. Are dental braces banned too? See, there is no logic to it. There needs to be a review of what sorts of materials and forms of Jewelry are allowed. Checks all the boxes? You're good to go race.
Ferromagnetic metals like Iron, Nickel and Cobalt are indeed a problem for an MRI though. Ironbased medical implants in general are so highly alloyed that they lose their magnetic properties, so they aren't a problem.
The issue in reality is that most people don't actually know what their piercings are exactly made of. For instance Nickel isn't an unusual material to find in piercings.

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Stu wrote:
11 May 2022, 13:46
Sounds easy, doesn’t it?

However, the height of the floor tunnels may have an impact elsewhere, such as the location of the cooling package, tunnel entry, front wing, rear wing, beam wing; it all works together. And that is with them maintaining the small side-pod concept, which may also no longer work as they would like afterwards.
No, it sounds like a lot of work, but that's what it takes to be successful.

The Zero pod design gives them scope to position the proposed arched roof floor to the side of the pods. It could also enhance floor rigidity.
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One day AI might be able to fix the W13 zero pod concept !

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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_cerber1 wrote:
11 May 2022, 14:25
I like the sound of a new floor !

Let's hope it does the job.
One day AI might be able to fix the W13 zero pod concept !

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Things will get a bit better probably, but without rear suspension tuning/upgrades it will probably not make W13 competitive for wins even if it is in the right direction.

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According to Formula.uno, that first real anti-porpoising corrections for the W13 will arrive in Spain, especially with a new floor.
In addition to aerodynamic upgrades, the second PU in Barcelona.They understand that the first unit was not used to its maximum potential. Mercedes did not want to comment on whether the second unit is a new specification with interventions granted by the FIA to solve reliability problems.

https://www.formu1a.uno/mercedes-in-arr ... in-spagna/

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pursue_one's wrote:
11 May 2022, 21:58
According to Formula.uno, that first real anti-porpoising corrections for the W13 will arrive in Spain, especially with a new floor.
In addition to aerodynamic upgrades, the second PU in Barcelona.They understand that the first unit was not used to its maximum potential. Mercedes did not want to comment on whether the second unit is a new specification with interventions granted by the FIA to solve reliability problems.

https://www.formu1a.uno/mercedes-in-arr ... in-spagna/
Well if they can solve the balance issues and gain a several tenths with the floor and the engine being turned up as intended, perhaps that 1s gain isnt that far fetched after all.... :idea:

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This was interesting too in the article:

(Translated)
To conclude, the Brackley team will carry out, before the Spanish weekend, the second and last filming day granted by the Federation over the course of a season. One hundred kilometers that Ferrari will also carry out next Friday on the very fast Monza track in Brianza.
Possibly seeking out another 100km of feedback before the real test begins in Spain?

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Where are they doing the filming day?

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 May 2022, 02:07
Where are they doing the filming day?
Monza.

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Dr. Acula wrote:
11 May 2022, 17:45
PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 May 2022, 17:15
P34 wrote:
11 May 2022, 10:42


In case of a big shunt you want to have someones head, neck or body going tru a MRI scan asap, impossible if you wear jewelry there…. (mentioned by a dutch reporter, no credits here).
That material doesn't affect MRI or cat-scan they say. A small chunk of platinum. Remember there are people with dental and skeletal braces too. Are dental braces banned too? See, there is no logic to it. There needs to be a review of what sorts of materials and forms of Jewelry are allowed. Checks all the boxes? You're good to go race.
Ferromagnetic metals like Iron, Nickel and Cobalt are indeed a problem for an MRI though. Ironbased medical implants in general are so highly alloyed that they lose their magnetic properties, so they aren't a problem.
The issue in reality is that most people don't actually know what their piercings are exactly made of. For instance Nickel isn't an unusual material to find in piercings.
A quick goolge search shows that even for stainless steel sutures the level of image artifacts are small, and the temperature rise is like 2 degrees celcius under an MRI. The was no sigificant magnetic pull because of the small size of the items.

Platinum is not magnetic so this wouldn't be an issue for a nose knob. No artifacts, no heating, no magnetic pull.

FIA has enforced a lazy ruling to target one driver.
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Spoutnik wrote:
11 May 2022, 11:23
Interesting.

Binotto a few days ago said that Red Bull will have to stop bringing so many updates to be compliant with budget cap - or that they are magicians if they continues to bring updates -

Ferrari will start to deliver first updates. It will be interesting to see if Ferrari strategy is better, bringing updates slower but all the year

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AA_2019 wrote:
11 May 2022, 17:49
Presumably, we can't expect there to be any performance increases with the new PU given it is now frozen?

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Presumably, we can't expect there to be any performance increases with the new PU given it is now frozen?
History has shown otherwise. Teams have shown a knack for gaining performance from reliability upgrades.

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