Mercedes W13

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Apexseal157
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the front wing flaps on the merc seem to flex a lot more than its competitors, cant get pics now but it looks like pretty significant deflection

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video of front wing flex with the new wing update in miami

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Once more. Please, posts like
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Apexseal157 wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:02
video of front wing flex with the new wing update in miami
All front wings flex ever since the first GP

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siskue2005 wrote:
21 May 2022, 09:46
Spacepace wrote:
21 May 2022, 03:15
Looks like there may possibly be stays bonded in the floor. You can see in the the third image the third carbon fiber slit is angled and in the fourth image a mechanic placed a helmet on top of it

https://imgur.com/gallery/YQcAbxQ
See my previous post
siskue2005 wrote:
20 May 2022, 15:23
there are interesting floor changes in that merc... are they running hidden stays like redbull?
[url]https://serving.photos.photobox.co ... 422d2a.jpg [/url]
The floor top cover has become taller, and i think there are hidden stays like this
[url]https://serving.photos.photobox.co ... 5d392e.jpg [/url]
Yeah that's what made me take notice. I just happened to catch that on Ted's pit practice video

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mantikos wrote:
21 May 2022, 11:16
Spacepace wrote:
21 May 2022, 03:15
Looks like there may possibly be stays bonded in the floor. You can see in the the third image the third carbon fiber slit is angled and in the fourth image a mechanic placed a helmet on top of it

https://imgur.com/gallery/YQcAbxQ
No, that's just where they mounted the sensors on the floor - go back to the launch spec car and look in that area.
That seems plausible as well. But a mechanic did purposely put a helmet on the bent slit after he noticed the camera

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jagunx51 wrote:
21 May 2022, 10:41
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What in the world is that white cover on the fuel tank?

Is it because they have the radiators indented in the chassis that they have to prevent the hot air from heating the fuel and that is some sort of high temp foam insulation?
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Spacepace wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:27
mantikos wrote:
21 May 2022, 11:16
Spacepace wrote:
21 May 2022, 03:15
Looks like there may possibly be stays bonded in the floor. You can see in the the third image the third carbon fiber slit is angled and in the fourth image a mechanic placed a helmet on top of it

https://imgur.com/gallery/YQcAbxQ
No, that's just where they mounted the sensors on the floor - go back to the launch spec car and look in that area.
That seems plausible as well. But a mechanic did purposely put a helmet on the bent slit after he noticed the camera
And in previous years the used to consistently put a tool tray there when the floor was flat. I kmow we want to imagine things, but there's no reason to hide a stay anyway even if it was there, except, it's not.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:57
What in the world is that white cover on the fuel tank?

Is it because they have the radiators indented in the chassis that they have to prevent the hot air from heating the fuel and that is some sort of high temp foam insulation?
Plausible explanation - also probably doesn't hurt internal airflow drag to have a smooth shape there.

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Spacepace wrote:
21 May 2022, 14:26
siskue2005 wrote:
21 May 2022, 09:46
Spacepace wrote:
21 May 2022, 03:15
Looks like there may possibly be stays bonded in the floor. You can see in the the third image the third carbon fiber slit is angled and in the fourth image a mechanic placed a helmet on top of it

https://imgur.com/gallery/YQcAbxQ
See my previous post
siskue2005 wrote:
20 May 2022, 15:23
there are interesting floor changes in that merc... are they running hidden stays like redbull?
[url]https://serving.photos.photobox.co ... 422d2a.jpg [/url]
The floor top cover has become taller, and i think there are hidden stays like this
[url]https://serving.photos.photobox.co ... 5d392e.jpg [/url]
Yeah that's what made me take notice. I just happened to catch that on Ted's pit practice video
For sure they have stiffened the floor with hidden stays as RB

If only they had copied what works earlier.

According to Ted Kravitz, Mercedes has solved their bouncing problems by stiffening the floor. Looks like they were looking too deep and the solution was right under their nose - successfully applied to other teams before.
One day AI might be able to fix the W13 zero pod concept !

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The zero sidepod is slower than the sidepod spec from testing qualifying proved it.. they need to switch back 😼

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Henri wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:10
The zero sidepod is slower than the sidepod spec from testing qualifying proved it.. they need to switch back 😼
Different track conditions. I wouldn't count on testing times.
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F1Krof wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:17
Henri wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:10
The zero sidepod is slower than the sidepod spec from testing qualifying proved it.. they need to switch back 😼
Different track conditions. I wouldn't count on testing times.
Also, which tires were they on during their fastest testing times vs Q3?
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cheeRS wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:31
F1Krof wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:17
Henri wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:10
The zero sidepod is slower than the sidepod spec from testing qualifying proved it.. they need to switch back 😼
Different track conditions. I wouldn't count on testing times.
Also, which tires were they on during their fastest testing times vs Q3?
C5 in testing Vs C3 in Q3 today

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organic wrote:
22 May 2022, 02:28
cheeRS wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:31
F1Krof wrote:
22 May 2022, 01:17


Different track conditions. I wouldn't count on testing times.
Also, which tires were they on during their fastest testing times vs Q3?
C5 in testing Vs C3 in Q3 today
C5 would be gone before sector 1 is over on this track. C3 in these conditions on this track is better performing tyre than C5. I am not sure if they ran empty tank in winter testing like they did here in quali. You can say C5 in winter conditions is on par with C3 in the current conditions on this track.

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