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@Juzh do you have access to the data to see what Max's DRS top speed was when he overtook Hamilton vs Sainz's highest top-speed with DRS behind Max?
I'm not Juzh but I do.
This is 90%ile lap from laps with DRS enabled only from the whole race, had to use distribution rather than average because Sainz had too many laps with it compared to VER and distribution is a better representation of the values in this case.
~2kph is the difference in speed on the main straight between Sainz and Verstappen in favor of Verstappen.
Ferrari has better acceleration out of T10, increasing the speed gap from around 150kph till 300kph and then RedBull has a bit less drag and regains speed against Ferrari to get to about 2kph up on them.
The 2 teams are very even on top speed when setup similarly. If Max had been behind Sainz, he would have been done for, just like Sainz was. The only thing that would have allowed a pass was a mistake from whoever would have been in front.
People listen to Sky too much.
However, from the TV, it looked like VER had better traction out of the haipin!
LEC had similar problems and not just with Ocon.
I wonder if there was anything to do, like a setting in the diff, or similar to change this situation
We can argue wether LEC had worse traction out of hairpin, I don't actually think it was that bad, but I don't think we can argue that SAI had bad traction, he didn't.
Hairpin is approached at almost 300kph, downforce is critical to stop fast, when you are 0.4s behind the car in front, braking is a lot harder, takes more out of brakes, more out of tires and just takes more space. SAI (and LEC) needed to take a more internal line in that corner to recover that downforce and not destroy their tires/brakes, that line however forces the car to have a lower minimum speed in the corner, SAI was 5kph slower on average through it in the last 15 laps, 5kph slower for a corner you take at 60kph is a LOT. You will obviously pay this lower minimum apex speed, and worse line through the corner, when it comes time to exit the corner and need to make it back, you simply are slower through the corner and the other car goes full throttle earlier than you, it's just a matter of physics. Only way to bridge that is with a softer compound that can alleviate some of the issues.
Maybe SAI should have tried a different way to attack, but I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the 2 Ferrari drivers because they 100% know more than I do about what options they had available to make that corner.
The traction problem at the hairpin doesn't hold true even when you see that SAI was faster than VER through the race by roughly 0.2s/lap. S3 is 2 corners, if you have traction issues at the start of S3 you will pay a huge amount of time, which he never did once in clean air from Alonso.