2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

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cplchanb wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:49
djones wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:45
mzivtins wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:44
Interesting seeing the red bull pace with a compromised floor... A take of something to come once flexi floors are finally enforced? Can't wait until the French GP
Indeed.
its crazy how slow max was and he barely got grazed by a car behind at the start. does anyone know what part of his car got touched?

this could be a 2006 mass damper level of turnaround for merc if the silver bullet for rb and ferrari is indeed the flexifloors
Yes very interesting, it's almost as if something key to their whole floor concept stopped working. Would love to see some pictures and slomo of the lap before and the lap after. I wonder if anyone can dig out the exact moment when it "broke" to see if we can see anything change...

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matt_b wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:51
This race has shown me from France onwards Ferrari and Red Bull are in big trouble to the Mercedes once they cant flex that floor by 6mm (4mm over the limit)
It entirely depends what the problem was with Max's car.

Ferrari didnt have any floor damage.

All this floor flexing is purely speculation at the minute

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DChemTech wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:50
Poleman wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:44
DChemTech wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:39


To be fair, Charles was driving on the outside, as Max was in 2021. So clearly, not impossible to take the outside line and get through without being hit ;)
You are not getting hit if you are not turning in to the car next to you :wink:
True, Hamilton did a much better job making the corner this time :)
Charles didn't try to take his nose off... :D
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matt_b wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:51
This race has shown me from France onwards Ferrari and Red Bull are in big trouble to the Mercedes once they cant flex that floor by 6mm (4mm over the limit)
Don't think there been any word on which teams this will effect though.

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How can it be that Perez doesn’t get a penalty for clearly forcing Hamilton off the track AND cutting a corner?? That cannot be for real!

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:53
DChemTech wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:50
Poleman wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:44


You are not getting hit if you are not turning in to the car next to you :wink:
True, Hamilton did a much better job making the corner this time :)
Charles didn't try to take his nose off... :D
Let's keep Silverstone 2021 for the 2021 race thread.

This race Hamilton was flawless, fantastic drive.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:52
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tsihgp.jpg[/url]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tishgp.jpg

That is one very lucky young man. Glad, and very surprised, to see him entirely uninjured and talking to Domenicalli in the paddock. The space he ended up in needs to be looked at for future events - perhaps some additional tyres or something else to fill that gap a bit.
This!

Even those armco barrier posts could have ended up under the halo. Moving the safety fence back 2-3metres would be much safer.

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:44
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:40
GrizzleBoy wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:38


Kind of ridiculous considering he cut the track so he could push Charles off, then pushed Hamyom off within a couple corners.

If you dont get a penalty for that, the rule has no reason for existing.

Watch it be applied sternly against a Williams and hass fighting for last place or something in the next race though.
You could go back to lap 1 where Charles caused a collision with Checo.
Lap 1 incidents are understanded to be officiated differently though as a rule of thumb for years and years.

The stewards literally made new rules this year to stop max doing what he did to Lewis over and over again in 2021, then let him do it lap after lap to mick Schumacher today.

And let Checo cut the track to overtake Charles, then almost immediately push Lewis off track to overtake him.

It's a joke.
Between Perez and Leclerc there was too much of a mess, in the first lap with a very late action by Leclerc, and after the restart with some feisty attacking from Perez and aggressive defending from Leclerc. After the restart, Hamilton initially profited from that, and then later was unfortunately hampered by Perez. Hard to distinctively say what should be penalized and what not (without killing racing altogether).

Max on Schumacher on the other hand was unnecessary. Max should have had to give to place to Mick.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:55
Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:52
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tsihgp.jpg[/url]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tishgp.jpg

That is one very lucky young man. Glad, and very surprised, to see him entirely uninjured and talking to Domenicalli in the paddock. The space he ended up in needs to be looked at for future events - perhaps some additional tyres or something else to fill that gap a bit.
This!

Even those armco barrier posts could have ended up under the halo. Moving the safety fence back 2-3metres would be much safer.
Yes, those uprights look very nasty in that image and the first thought I had was "he's lucky one of those didn't intrude in to the cockpit".
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InsaneX_Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:54
matt_b wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:51
This race has shown me from France onwards Ferrari and Red Bull are in big trouble to the Mercedes once they cant flex that floor by 6mm (4mm over the limit)
Don't think there been any word on which teams this will effect though.
there are a number of reports that Rb and ferrari have been caught up with this. in a way this was why merc got caught up on the second stay incident last race.

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That SC was called at the exact moment to F... Charles up.

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This is why I hate Chandhok sometimes. He has the sky pad on slo-motion trying to pretend Ferrari had enough time to react for LEC. It was v marginal for LEC, let alone having the time to double-stack, it would’ve been chaos.
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DChemTech wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:56
hard to distinctively say what should be penalized and what not (without killing racing altogether).

But that is basically a return to "let them race" which the FIA have tried very hard to row back from after last year. So far this year, the racing has been great between the drivers, but for some reason today they got a bit of red mist and broke the rules. I have little doubt that had those been between drivers not fighting for the podium places, they'd have handed out penalties. I think the feeling was "it's been a great race, let's not ruin the atmosphere with post-race penalties". I think that's the wrong move by the FIA, but it's not like they haven't done it before over the years.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:52
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tsihgp.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... 4_zhou.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... 1_zhou.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tishgp.jpg

That is one very lucky young man. Glad, and very surprised, to see him entirely uninjured and talking to Domenicalli in the paddock. The space he ended up in needs to be looked at for future events - perhaps some additional tyres or something else to fill that gap a bit.
Thank you for posting those JAF, listening on the radio and it sounded bad, the pictures show it worse than they could describe it! As you say, he is very, very lucky! Any pics of the Albon crash?
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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2022, 18:52
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tsihgp.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... 4_zhou.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... 1_zhou.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/9 ... tishgp.jpg

That is one very lucky young man. Glad, and very surprised, to see him entirely uninjured and talking to Domenicalli in the paddock. The space he ended up in needs to be looked at for future events - perhaps some additional tyres or something else to fill that gap a bit.
I wonder how they extracted him
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