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Billiard smooth, they can race.

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Arrgh, it was looking promising before the safety car came out!
One day AI might be able to fix the W13 zero pod concept !

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Could have won it strategy wise (before SC) but after the SC, the flaws of this car prevented the win (rbr and ferrari still faster)
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Hamilton is a hell of a driver! The older drivers on the grid - Alonso, Perez, Vettel - acknowledge his special talent. Surely, some of these younger guys like Norris who make careless comments must know that too. His sheer relentless and consistency must be a nightmare for the other drivers.

George is a brilliant driver at the same level as Leclerc and Verstappen but he will struggle to keep up with Hamilton on Sundays with Hamilton in this form.

Looking ahead, Paul Ricard should hopefully suit Mercedes but Redbull Ring will be a tough one with Redbull's incredible straightline speed.

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De Jokke wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:45 pm
Could have won it strategy wise (before SC) but after the SC, the flaws of this car prevented the win (rbr and ferrari still faster)
Everyone was thinking should have put on softs when pitted, turns out that wouldnt have made much difference.
Would putting the mediums on for the last 10 laps being better then the softs?

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erudite450 wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:17 pm
Hamilton is a hell of a driver! The older drivers on the grid - Alonso, Perez, Vettel - acknowledge his special talent. Surely, some of these younger guys like Norris who make careless comments must know that too. His sheer relentless and consistency must be a nightmare for the other drivers.

George is a brilliant driver at the same level as Leclerc and Verstappen but he will struggle to keep up with Hamilton on Sundays with Hamilton in this form.

Looking ahead, Paul Ricard should hopefully suit Mercedes but Redbull Ring will be a tough one with Redbull's incredible straightline speed.
Still not the best Lewis IMO. He gave too much ground to Norris, Charles and Checo. Probably trying to let the car bring it self home but he could have been more aggressive.

Did Mercedes have any new mediums btw?
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:27 pm
erudite450 wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:17 pm
Hamilton is a hell of a driver! The older drivers on the grid - Alonso, Perez, Vettel - acknowledge his special talent. Surely, some of these younger guys like Norris who make careless comments must know that too. His sheer relentless and consistency must be a nightmare for the other drivers.

George is a brilliant driver at the same level as Leclerc and Verstappen but he will struggle to keep up with Hamilton on Sundays with Hamilton in this form.

Looking ahead, Paul Ricard should hopefully suit Mercedes but Redbull Ring will be a tough one with Redbull's incredible straightline speed.
Still not the best Lewis IMO. He gave too much ground to Norris, Charles and Checo. Probably trying to let the car bring it self home but he could have been more aggressive.

Did Mercedes have any new mediums btw?
I don't know, are you sure about that? Most where taking a lot of risk and even hitting each other so I actually think Hamilton did everything he could. For me this was one of his best races in a while, including last year. Best of the day surely.

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I would have boxed Lewis a couple of laps earlier and put him on mediums.
Merc did react well with the SC to give softs but the car doesn't seem to like them (can't switch them on quick enough) :cry:

If we may believe Elliot, they know now in which direction to develop, let's hope they can bring updates at a fast rate
Mercedes AMG + Hamilton => dreamteam!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:27 pm
erudite450 wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:17 pm
Hamilton is a hell of a driver! The older drivers on the grid - Alonso, Perez, Vettel - acknowledge his special talent. Surely, some of these younger guys like Norris who make careless comments must know that too. His sheer relentless and consistency must be a nightmare for the other drivers.

George is a brilliant driver at the same level as Leclerc and Verstappen but he will struggle to keep up with Hamilton on Sundays with Hamilton in this form.

Looking ahead, Paul Ricard should hopefully suit Mercedes but Redbull Ring will be a tough one with Redbull's incredible straightline speed.
Still not the best Lewis IMO. He gave too much ground to Norris, Charles and Checo. Probably trying to let the car bring it self home but he could have been more aggressive.

Did Mercedes have any new mediums btw?
I take your point. He might have been a bit too nice to some of them but they had tyre warmup issue as well all weekend. That's why I was shocked they did a cool down lap before his final flying lap yesterday. His pace, though, in the grand prix was astonishing.

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Hamilton is miles better than these guys. The only issue he might have going forward is Russell's pace on Saturdays. He doesn't need to be losing time behind Russell at the early stages of grands prix allowing Verstappen and Leclerc to have a cushion.

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De Jokke wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:32 pm
I would have boxed Lewis a couple of laps earlier and put him on mediums.
Merc did react well with the SC to give softs but the car doesn't seem to like them (can't switch them on quick enough) :cry:

If we may believe Elliot, they know now in which direction to develop, let's hope they can bring updates at a fast rate
Shame it couldn't have happened a few months ago, nothing to race for but pride now

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I think they did, but I believe you need to use two different compounds in a dry race
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:27 pm
erudite450 wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:17 pm
Hamilton is a hell of a driver! The older drivers on the grid - Alonso, Perez, Vettel - acknowledge his special talent. Surely, some of these younger guys like Norris who make careless comments must know that too. His sheer relentless and consistency must be a nightmare for the other drivers.

George is a brilliant driver at the same level as Leclerc and Verstappen but he will struggle to keep up with Hamilton on Sundays with Hamilton in this form.

Looking ahead, Paul Ricard should hopefully suit Mercedes but Redbull Ring will be a tough one with Redbull's incredible straightline speed.
Still not the best Lewis IMO. He gave too much ground to Norris, Charles and Checo. Probably trying to let the car bring it self home but he could have been more aggressive.

Did Mercedes have any new mediums btw?

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They had on hards so I was thinking he could have tried mediums for the safety car restart.
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That slow stop from Mercedes of 4 seconds. If Hamilton had those 2 seconds and Ocon didn't do is piquet Jr. move then we could have been celbrating a win. Perez coming back into the picture also killed any hopes of a win. The redbull is too fast. It's a step ahead of the ferrari in the race. Mercedes has small chance against a ferrari, but none against the RB18, as the RB has no weaknesses.

Geoge succumbed to home race pressure today.
He also had no reason to try to save Zhou. Running around like a chicken for no reason. I like the guy, but he is putting too much expectations on himself to be the perfect driver on and off the track.
He need to refocus and get back to doing his thing on the track. He is super talented, and could have factored in this race if he just got back to the pits and left Zhou to the marshals.
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Some of the things other drivers can get away with. Imagine if Hamilton was the one asking for his teammate to be moved out of the way, they'd have asked for his head. Not that it wasn't the right thing to do though.