Ferrari 675 Speculation Thread

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gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:01
This instead is how ChronoGP supposes the 675 sidepods will be (RBR style):

https://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-content ... errari.png
That's just the amr22 painted red :wtf:

This chronogp is useless imo none of this is substantiated. All of the normal Ferrari sources are completely silent on the 2023 car. Until they say something I think it's unlikely anyone else will have a remote idea

Before the 2022 car's launch formula1uno had predicted the triangular airbox of Haas & Ferrari and so far they have not reported any rumours of the 2023 car

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organic wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:03
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:01
This instead is how ChronoGP supposes the 675 sidepods will be (RBR style):

https://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-content ... errari.png
That's just the amr22 painted red :wtf:

This chronogp is useless imo none of this is substantiated. All of the normal Ferrari sources are completely silent on the 2023 car. Until they say something I think it's unlikely anyone else will have a remote idea

Before the 2022 car's launch formula1uno had predicted the triangular airbox of Haas & Ferrari and so far they have not reported any rumours of the 2023 car
Yes, but this is a "Speculation" thread, so we have to speculate, not to know the truth about the new car. :D

Anyway it seems that reliable sources say that the 675 will be more than 1 sec. faster than the F1-75.
This, obviously, according to the simulator... and that's the problem... :lol:
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gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:46
organic wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:03
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:01
This instead is how ChronoGP supposes the 675 sidepods will be (RBR style):

https://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-content ... errari.png
That's just the amr22 painted red :wtf:

This chronogp is useless imo none of this is substantiated. All of the normal Ferrari sources are completely silent on the 2023 car. Until they say something I think it's unlikely anyone else will have a remote idea

Before the 2022 car's launch formula1uno had predicted the triangular airbox of Haas & Ferrari and so far they have not reported any rumours of the 2023 car
Yes, but this is a "Speculation" thread, so we have to speculate, not to know the truth about the new car. :D
Fair enough I guess I forgot about this thread being all about speculation

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gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:23
So, this might be more likely than RBR style sidepods predicted by ChronoGP?

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 109150.jpg

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 869132.jpg
Looks closer to detailed rumoured description that appeared in a lot of Italian media.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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aren't those fellas that claim split turbo layout? Take those animation with massive pinch of salt.

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organic wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:03
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:01
This instead is how ChronoGP supposes the 675 sidepods will be (RBR style):

https://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-content ... errari.png
That's just the amr22 painted red :wtf:
Why AMR and not RB? AMR never had that RB intake.

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organic wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:03
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:01
This instead is how ChronoGP supposes the 675 sidepods will be (RBR style):

https://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-content ... errari.png
That's just the amr22 painted red :wtf:

This chronogp is useless imo none of this is substantiated. All of the normal Ferrari sources are completely silent on the 2023 car. Until they say something I think it's unlikely anyone else will have a remote idea

Before the 2022 car's launch formula1uno had predicted the triangular airbox of Haas & Ferrari and so far they have not reported any rumours of the 2023 car
No Nugnes has talked about the triangular airbox in motorsport.com in particular, even if he often invents news.
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... 4/7708329/

Instead, they remember that the guys from the other site you mentioned were talking about a front pull rod that never arrived, I think there are links somewhere
ah ah
https://www.formu1a.uno/ferrari-674-202 ... anteriore/

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Blackout wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 13:54
organic wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:03
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:01
This instead is how ChronoGP supposes the 675 sidepods will be (RBR style):

https://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-content ... errari.png
That's just the amr22 painted red :wtf:
Why AMR and not RB? AMR never had that RB intake.
True

I said amr because there is no extra undercut/channel hollowed out at the base of the sidepod like RB18 had. Amr weren't able to put that in to the same extent as RB

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One more speculation:

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Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 00:01
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:23
So, this might be more likely than RBR style sidepods predicted by ChronoGP?

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 109150.jpg

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 869132.jpg
Looks closer to detailed rumoured description that appeared in a lot of Italian media.
Can't say anything about the accuracy of chrono gp's animations, but they are right about one thing: the new floor will cause more air infiltration from the sides. The only way teams have handled that is via either vortex creation or downwashing bodywork. With the rules prohibiting sharp edges to generate outwash, the downwashing bodywork remains the only option. So there is a chance that ferrari might go the RB18 route.

If it happens, ferrari will already start the season with a disadvantage to RB since they've had an year's worth of extra experience with it.
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ryaan2904 wrote:
29 Jan 2023, 15:10
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 00:01
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:23
So, this might be more likely than RBR style sidepods predicted by ChronoGP?

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 109150.jpg

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 869132.jpg
Looks closer to detailed rumoured description that appeared in a lot of Italian media.
Can't say anything about the accuracy of chrono gp's animations, but they are right about one thing: the new floor will cause more air infiltration from the sides. The only way teams have handled that is via either vortex creation or downwashing bodywork. With the rules prohibiting sharp edges to generate outwash, the downwashing bodywork remains the only option. So there is a chance that ferrari might go the RB18 route.

If it happens, ferrari will already start the season with a disadvantage to RB since they've had an year's worth of extra experience with it.
Out wash can still be created with the floor fences or with the shape of the side pods. Also I don’t think that the downwash of the bodywork is about floor sealing. I think it’s way more about bringing more air around the diffuser.

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ryaan2904 wrote:
29 Jan 2023, 15:10
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 00:01
gordonthegun wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:23
So, this might be more likely than RBR style sidepods predicted by ChronoGP?

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 109150.jpg

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.e ... 869132.jpg
Looks closer to detailed rumoured description that appeared in a lot of Italian media.
Can't say anything about the accuracy of chrono gp's animations, but they are right about one thing: the new floor will cause more air infiltration from the sides. The only way teams have handled that is via either vortex creation or downwashing bodywork. With the rules prohibiting sharp edges to generate outwash, the downwashing bodywork remains the only option. So there is a chance that ferrari might go the RB18 route.

If it happens, ferrari will already start the season with a disadvantage to RB since they've had an year's worth of extra experience with it.
Can the edge of the floor, dare I say, bend and help with the seal? Those long stakes Mercedes were running last year can be adjusted to let the edge of the floor get closer to the track..

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Ofcorse it can and it will. Till u pass FIA static loads its free estate on track.
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deadhead wrote:
29 Jan 2023, 20:19
ryaan2904 wrote:
29 Jan 2023, 15:10
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 00:01


Looks closer to detailed rumoured description that appeared in a lot of Italian media.
Can't say anything about the accuracy of chrono gp's animations, but they are right about one thing: the new floor will cause more air infiltration from the sides. The only way teams have handled that is via either vortex creation or downwashing bodywork. With the rules prohibiting sharp edges to generate outwash, the downwashing bodywork remains the only option. So there is a chance that ferrari might go the RB18 route.

If it happens, ferrari will already start the season with a disadvantage to RB since they've had an year's worth of extra experience with it.
Can the edge of the floor, dare I say, bend and help with the seal? Those long stakes Mercedes were running last year can be adjusted to let the edge of the floor get closer to the track..
The floors bending was part of the porpoising issue iirc

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deadhead wrote:
29 Jan 2023, 20:19
ryaan2904 wrote:
29 Jan 2023, 15:10
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 00:01


Looks closer to detailed rumoured description that appeared in a lot of Italian media.
Can't say anything about the accuracy of chrono gp's animations, but they are right about one thing: the new floor will cause more air infiltration from the sides. The only way teams have handled that is via either vortex creation or downwashing bodywork. With the rules prohibiting sharp edges to generate outwash, the downwashing bodywork remains the only option. So there is a chance that ferrari might go the RB18 route.

If it happens, ferrari will already start the season with a disadvantage to RB since they've had an year's worth of extra experience with it.
Can the edge of the floor, dare I say, bend and help with the seal? Those long stakes Mercedes were running last year can be adjusted to let the edge of the floor get closer to the track..
Even if it does, and it most likely will, overall the rule change would still cost you low speed downforce. Bending bodywork happens only at high speeds mostly.
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