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KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 14:09
If you follow the Moving F1 staff posts, you'll see that 3 aero guys have left Aston in the last 10 days mostly to McLaren
Transfer of team personnel happens constantly. What is now of interest is that AM suddenly has become a good place to head hunt from.

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KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 14:09
If you follow the Moving F1 staff posts, you'll see that 3 aero guys have left Aston in the last 10 days mostly to McLaren
Good. That means, they can recruit few more RB or Merc guys :D :D
AM is cash rich , elevated itself to top F1 team & going to a brand new facility. It wont be difficult for them to hire talented people from other teams(including Drivers :wink: ).

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New rear wing likely coming for Melbourne or Baku (what you guys thought would arrive for Jeddah)

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NAPI10 wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 14:54
KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 14:09
If you follow the Moving F1 staff posts, you'll see that 3 aero guys have left Aston in the last 10 days mostly to McLaren
Good. That means, they can recruit few more RB or Merc guys :D :D
AM is cash rich , elevated itself to top F1 team & going to a brand new facility. It wont be difficult for them to hire talented people from other teams(including Drivers :wink: ).
I’m not worried either.. those names are pre-Dan/Eric era.. who have been replaced already by the new team headed by them. Completely normal.. but does mean they can also hire more staff if needed ;)

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NAPI10 wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 14:54
KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 14:09
If you follow the Moving F1 staff posts, you'll see that 3 aero guys have left Aston in the last 10 days mostly to McLaren
Good. That means, they can recruit few more RB or Merc guys :D :D
AM is cash rich , elevated itself to top F1 team & going to a brand new facility. It wont be difficult for them to hire talented people from other teams(including Drivers :wink: ).
I like this post. :lol:

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KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 15:02
New rear wing likely coming for Melbourne or Baku (what you guys thought would arrive for Jeddah)
better late than never.

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KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 15:02
New rear wing likely coming for Melbourne or Baku (what you guys thought would arrive for Jeddah)
Interesting- any idea on the development direction behind it and anticipated benefit? (I know that’s a lot to ask haha!)

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Mansell89 wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 23:21
KimiRai wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 15:02
New rear wing likely coming for Melbourne or Baku (what you guys thought would arrive for Jeddah)
Interesting- any idea on the development direction behind it and anticipated benefit? (I know that’s a lot to ask haha!)
Well they're using the higher df wing with a trimmed flap at the moment even for low downforce tracks, so it's safe to assume they will see a good efficiency benefit from the lower df spec. Otherwise teams wouldn't spend on 3-4 RW specs which obviously cost a fair bit.

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Adrain newey looking and staring at aston martin car.[media] [/media]

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abhi1200 wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 04:30
Adrain newey looking and staring at aston martin car. https://twitter.com/startonpole/status ... dG5aw&s=19
This is a **** stirring tweet :lol:

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 05:12
abhi1200 wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 04:30
Adrain newey looking and staring at aston martin car. https://twitter.com/startonpole/status ... dG5aw&s=19
This is a **** stirring tweet :lol:
It is a known fact that the thing is a must have British F1 journalist specialty and that they compete about it between themselves exactly like Qualifying is done in F1.

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saviour stivala wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 07:05
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 05:12
abhi1200 wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 04:30
Adrain newey looking and staring at aston martin car. https://twitter.com/startonpole/status ... dG5aw&s=19
This is a **** stirring tweet :lol:
It is a known fact that the thing is a must have British F1 journalist specialty and that they compete about it between themselves exactly like Qualifying is done in F1.
Unfortunately much worse in more recent reporting. Always present in the "gutter" press, honed over many years in football reporting, but sadly now invasive in motorsport.

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how often do the teams break out new engines in the races that they stand to gain more points in? and put the old engine back in later? i was curious if alonso would possibly do that in melbourne after strolls problems last race. seems like it would make sense, but i dont hear about it a ton.

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zoroastar wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 21:31
how often do the teams break out new engines in the races that they stand to gain more points in? and put the old engine back in later? i was curious if alonso would possibly do that in melbourne after strolls problems last race. seems like it would make sense, but i dont hear about it a ton.
I don't think there's typically a lot of degradation for power units as mileage is put into them. Merc suffered with this in '21 as a relic of their extremely aggressive push for peak power in trying to match Ferrari into 2020 and their engine modes/general car advantage being able to mask / prevent the degradation.

And I suspect that if they were to prioritize the usage of engines in this way, rather than saving the fresh/strongest engines for races where they think they'll do better, they'd generally rather save them for circuits where engine performance has a greater effect on laptime such as Monza, spa etc

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organic wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 21:38
zoroastar wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 21:31
how often do the teams break out new engines in the races that they stand to gain more points in? and put the old engine back in later? i was curious if alonso would possibly do that in melbourne after strolls problems last race. seems like it would make sense, but i dont hear about it a ton.
I don't think there's typically a lot of degradation for power units as mileage is put into them. Merc suffered with this in '21 as a relic of their extremely aggressive push for peak power in trying to match Ferrari into 2020 and their engine modes/general car advantage being able to mask / prevent the degradation.

And I suspect that if they were to prioritize the usage of engines in this way, rather than saving the fresh/strongest engines for races where they think they'll do better, they'd generally rather save them for circuits where engine performance has a greater effect on laptime such as Monza, spa etc
yeah that makes sense i guess. more worried about a break down than a power disadvantage, but thats kinda how the ball rolls sometimes. hopefully strolls problem was a one off.