2025 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, April 18-20

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ringo wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:26
RB21 fastest car today. Max lost the race on the launch basically. Ferrari has good race pace which is encouraging.
Mercedes looking very shaky for the development race with their deg.
I think the McLaren was still clearly quicker. Oscar controlled the pace pretty well knowing Max had a 5s penalty coming didn’t need to really push Max on the track- pulled a gap after the pit stop when he overtook Lewis.

Might have been interesting if Max handed the position back straight away how he might’ve gone. I think Oscar probably had him covered.


But without the penalty I also don’t think it would’ve been a simple overtake either.

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Max keeping it short… What’s his problem now? lol
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I think his move was the best choice. If he tucked in behind Piastri, Russel would have gone through and Max would have been in his dirty air. He lost the race on the launch, but he drove well.
The cars seem to fly in clean air. Somewhat muddying the water on which car really has an advantage. The RB is less sensitive to dirty air, whereas the Mclarens and Ferrari's more so.
The formula is somewhat depressing. The racing is worse than previous years. The race result is basically set from qualifying.
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PinkFloydPulse wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:36
Max keeping it short… What’s his problem now? lol
He was angry over his penalty which he has recieved a million times for the same offence before without learning from it, so it’s unfair to him.

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PinkFloydPulse wrote:Max keeping it short… What’s his problem now? lol
Wrong opening question from Coulthard! It was a closed question.

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And he won’t learn from this one as well… Oscar now looks much stronger than Lando, it will be a mental blow for Lando for sure. Race was all in all meh…
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:D It is tight this year.

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ringo wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:37
I think his move was the best choice. If he tucked in behind Piastri, Russel would have gone through and Max would have been in his dirty air. He lost the race on the launch, but he drove well.
The cars seem to fly in clean air. Somewhat muddying the water on which car really has an advantage. The RB is less sensitive to dirty air, whereas the Mclarens and Ferrari's more so.
The formula is somewhat depressing. The racing is worse than previous years. The race result is basically set from qualifying.
Good point agree, clean air is the king here. Also Piastri had a slower pit-stop, lost at least a second there. And not just there, he had traffic in the last laps, probably cost him another second or maybe even more. The gap would have been about 4-5 seconds to Max in this race. Piastri had it in the bag after his perfect start. A impressive drive from him I have to say as a big Verstappen fan.

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Vettel165 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 21:05
ringo wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:37
I think his move was the best choice. If he tucked in behind Piastri, Russel would have gone through and Max would have been in his dirty air. He lost the race on the launch, but he drove well.
The cars seem to fly in clean air. Somewhat muddying the water on which car really has an advantage. The RB is less sensitive to dirty air, whereas the Mclarens and Ferrari's more so.
The formula is somewhat depressing. The racing is worse than previous years. The race result is basically set from qualifying.
Good point agree, clean air is the king here. Also Piastri had a slower pit-stop, lost at least a second there. And not just there, he had traffic in the last laps, probably cost him another second or maybe even more. The gap would have been about 4-5 seconds to Max in this race. Piastri had it in the bag after his perfect start. A impressive drive from him I have to say as a big Verstappen fan.
Just a non-confrontative question about your last sentence. You are implying that it’s difficult for you to praise another driver due to the fact that you are a fan of another driver. I see that quite a lot from many people. I’m genuinly curious why it is so hard? If another driver does a great job and deserves praise, why wouldn’t you be able to do it just because you like another driver?

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Tvetovnato wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 21:10
Vettel165 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 21:05
ringo wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:37
I think his move was the best choice. If he tucked in behind Piastri, Russel would have gone through and Max would have been in his dirty air. He lost the race on the launch, but he drove well.
The cars seem to fly in clean air. Somewhat muddying the water on which car really has an advantage. The RB is less sensitive to dirty air, whereas the Mclarens and Ferrari's more so.
The formula is somewhat depressing. The racing is worse than previous years. The race result is basically set from qualifying.
Good point agree, clean air is the king here. Also Piastri had a slower pit-stop, lost at least a second there. And not just there, he had traffic in the last laps, probably cost him another second or maybe even more. The gap would have been about 4-5 seconds to Max in this race. Piastri had it in the bag after his perfect start. A impressive drive from him I have to say as a big Verstappen fan.
Just a non-confrontative question about your last sentence. You are implying that it’s difficult for you to praise another driver due to the fact that you are a fan of another driver. I see that quite a lot from many people. I’m genuinly curious why it is so hard? If another driver does a great job and deserves praise, why wouldn’t you be able to do it just because you like another driver?
Well I did praise him, didnt I ? He is like Kimi in disguise. very cool under the massive pressure. Leclerc, Max, Piastri all did its job very well today.

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Without the mistake in Australia, Piastri would have been an least 25-30 points ahead in standings. Thats amazing, absolutely could be a new world champion this year. But he has to keep it up...

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Tvetovnato wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:38
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:36
Max keeping it short… What’s his problem now? lol
He was angry over his penalty which he has recieved a million times for the same offence before without learning from it, so it’s unfair to him.
I think he knows it very well and did this on purpose because penalty is too weak thus reciving a penalty and keeping place is better than conceding.
I'm ok with drivers about that, but mad at rules.

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1)
Max getting a taste of his own medicine - someone else grabbed the inside of the corner and forced him off. This is what he himself has been doing for years. He shouldn't be complaining. That said, his decision to cut the 2nd corner and grab 'clean air', openly inviting the time penalty was the right thing to do from RB21's perspective - ran well in clean air. However, the guy in P2 was Piastri, with a monster McLaren. Drove well, once the dirty air started hurting his tyres, backed off and used the +5 penalty to execute a neat undercut. Once in clean air, McLaren showed it's true pace. Had Verstappen given back the place immediately, outcome would have been same. Piastri would have run off into the distance. Either way, for Verstappen, irrespective of giving up track position or a time penalty, a poor start off the line cost him the win.

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Driver of the day = LeClerc. Simply brilliant. The only guy faster than him on H was Norris. People polling the DOTD vote are idiots. LeClerc was the 'over delivering' driver by a huge margin.

3)
Despite all the sulking and childish petulance (he wasn't talking to fellow podium winners, didn't spray the champagne on the podium) , Verstappen would've taken a 12-point deficit to sit P3 in the WDC after the first five rounds, considering the state of his car and the way the team wound up their bahrain testing. This P2 isn't a bad result at all.

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What happened with Norris crossing the pitlane exit line? I thought they clarified this after Monaco a few years ago.
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Vettel165 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 21:23
Without the mistake in Australia, Piastri would have been an least 25-30 points ahead in standings. Thats amazing, absolutely could be a new world champion this year. But he has to keep it up...
Was that really a mistake? I mean they were the first of the cars arriving at the wet part of the circuit.