2025 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, April 18-20

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Max blew the win with his terrible start, very unlike him.
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F1NAC wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 23:17
Vettel165 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 21:23
Without the mistake in Australia, Piastri would have been an least 25-30 points ahead in standings. Thats amazing, absolutely could be a new world champion this year. But he has to keep it up...
Was that really a mistake? I mean they were the first of the cars arriving at the wet part of the circuit.
When has this ever been an excuse to go off.
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Hoffman900 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 19:35
DDopey wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 19:16
So Max if he does this tactics he gets blamed and now when he is on the receiving end he gets penalized, crazy.
Max would complain so much if he had to race himself.
Haha, I feel this is the same if all drivers had to race themselves e.g. Hamilton braking to get DRS in front of Lando.

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stephen wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 23:17
Max blew the win with his terrible start, very unlike him.
2 in a row. Lost 2 places in Bahrain, i think.

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Ben1980 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 23:19
stephen wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 23:17
Max blew the win with his terrible start, very unlike him.
2 in a row. Lost 2 places in Bahrain, i think.
It's a recurring theme. Lost places in China as well. There's clearly more to Red Bull just not being as good as a starter unless Max just brainfarted these three races.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Bearman vs Doohan later in the race showed how overtaking into T1 should be done, both leaving space, no one left the track.

It's the stupid rules that F1 employ, even if Piastri was ever so slightly ahead, he should not be allowed to crowd someone off track. Cause where should the other car go then?
Same applies to verstappen of course. But this "the corner is mine" is bullcrap.

It negates the basic principles of racing, if you're on the inside you need to brake more because your corner radius is smaller. And that's one of the major overtaking issues in F1 with their stupid aHeAd aT tHe ApEx rules ...

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Mandrake wrote:
21 Apr 2025, 00:23
Bearman vs Doohan later in the race showed how overtaking into T1 should be done, both leaving space, no one left the track.

It's the stupid rules that F1 employ, even if Piastri was ever so slightly ahead, he should not be allowed to crowd someone off track. Cause where should the other car go then?
Same applies to verstappen of course. But this "the corner is mine" is bullcrap.

It negates the basic principles of racing, if you're on the inside you need to brake more because your corner radius is smaller. And that's one of the major overtaking issues in F1 with their stupid aHeAd aT tHe ApEx rules ...
I think that's it's fine to have an alternate opinion, but the drivers voted for this so if that is how they want to treat one another, then I don't see a point in defending alternatives.
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stephen wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 23:17
Max blew the win with his terrible start, very unlike him.
Shitty start were quite normal some years ago but that was because of the car/engine. Still a human race so this happens, he is not a robot. TBH Piastri didn't leave him must choice, either brake and loose like two positions or let the stewards decide, so good choice like always from Max. But Stewards (I think not allowed during SC) should have said give it back or penalty. It is just funny the haters arise again :) Piastri looks good and way better than Norris, Piastri doesn't have the killer instinct but young but by far the best car so he should nail it this year.

Toto should ditch Russell and hire Leclerc for next year, Russell is just meh not friendly and bad for image, Leclerc is way faster close to Verstappen and a very likable person. With Antonelli and Leclerc they will have a great line up.

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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Apr 2025, 00:29
Mandrake wrote:
21 Apr 2025, 00:23
Bearman vs Doohan later in the race showed how overtaking into T1 should be done, both leaving space, no one left the track.

It's the stupid rules that F1 employ, even if Piastri was ever so slightly ahead, he should not be allowed to crowd someone off track. Cause where should the other car go then?
Same applies to verstappen of course. But this "the corner is mine" is bullcrap.

It negates the basic principles of racing, if you're on the inside you need to brake more because your corner radius is smaller. And that's one of the major overtaking issues in F1 with their stupid aHeAd aT tHe ApEx rules ...
I think that's it's fine to have an alternate opinion, but the drivers voted for this so if that is how they want to treat one another, then I don't see a point in defending alternatives.
Looking at it few times because its a left hander and then the right. I wonder if Verstappen didnt go of track and Piastri had braked his front wheel would have impacted max his rear?
And a big crash would happen. In my opinion if they just give the place back and not lose 5 seconds but less there would have still have been a chance.At the end they where only 2.5 apart i think so with the DRS Verstappen would have had a chance to take the place , but again my idea

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Mandrake wrote:
21 Apr 2025, 00:23
Bearman vs Doohan later in the race showed how overtaking into T1 should be done, both leaving space, no one left the track.

It's the stupid rules that F1 employ, even if Piastri was ever so slightly ahead, he should not be allowed to crowd someone off track. Cause where should the other car go then?
Same applies to verstappen of course. But this "the corner is mine" is bullcrap.

It negates the basic principles of racing, if you're on the inside you need to brake more because your corner radius is smaller. And that's one of the major overtaking issues in F1 with their stupid aHeAd aT tHe ApEx rules ...
I didn't want to write about this, as it was discussed so many times and I just don't see the point bringing up again, but fully agree. It is so stupid, that basically you have to stop the replay and zoom into it to see who is 5cm ahead and that person has full right to do whatever he wants to and the other can go f**k himself. It is so stupid.

In my rulebook they would need to leave 1 car's width as long as the other car is considerably alongside.
Sometimes this just happens and great to see drivers fighting each other through 3-4-5 corners. It also makes awesome television.

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I am ammused at Max fans complaining about defending corners.
Looking at the situation, this is not a highspeed chase with thr attacker picking his move and defender picking his position.
This was a race launch and very differenr circumstances. Piastri did not crowd Max off the road. He naturally started on the inside and outdragged Max in P1. That's the only way P2 gets ahead of the pole sitter here. There is no other way to do it. P2 will have the inside and must take the corner shallow.
What Max should have done is simply ensure he got a better launch. You snooze you lose.
No coming back. Especially with these kinds of turn 1s. Austin has a similar turn 1 entry.
After losing out Max should have simply ease off throttle and try his best to follow Piastri thru without conceding to Russel.
He was lucky not to get a 10s penalty. Another half penalty for him for the stewards. Lucky guy.

He had the fastest car today, from the data, so he should be happy that the car doesnt really need much fixing to be sorted out. The doom and gloom from Bahrain is no more. The RB21 needs the right tyre selection for the tarmac for it to work well.
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What's the point of press conferences anymore if the drivers are gagged by the FIA?

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Tvetovnato wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:38
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:36
Max keeping it short… What’s his problem now? lol
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He was angry over his penalty which he has recieved a million times for the same offence before without learning from it, so it’s unfair to him.
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BS. Stick to the truth and facts please.
This was the reason Max kept his mouth! Sulayem doesn't tolerate any contradiction otherwise you get a huge penalty.
Look at his bodylanguage in these photo's.

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Whats the reason for Russels clear SC restart breach not even get looked at? He might aswell of overtook Piastri.

Charles also looks very close aswell on the exit of the turn. As they go past the big C in Aramco.
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chrisc90 wrote:
21 Apr 2025, 10:06


Whats the reason for Russels clear SC restart breach not even get looked at? He might aswell of overtook Piastri.

Charles also looks very close aswell on the exit of the turn. As they go past the big C in Aramco.
Verstappen accelerated then hard braked several times before actually going, very nearly caused a crash with the cars behind and everyone got awkwardly bunched up.

I'm actually surprised nothing was really mentioned or made of it at the time, wasn't there rule about 'faking' a SC restart?