2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Ben1980
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That was dominant. Class apart.

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Wow! So Impressive!
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FittingMechanics
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Emag wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:34
In the end, Lando cost himself the win here, because he continues to treat Max like every other driver.

A rather boring race discounting the action in the first couple of laps, but this performance today is really ominous for the rest of the grid in the upcoming european hot stretch.
I really disagree with this. Norris was unlucky because he was a second car to attack Verstappen. Verstappen lost his tires and his pace dropped off. So Norris who relatively quickly overtook Verstappen lost a lot of time compared to Piastri (Verstappen had decent pace before Piastri overtook him).

I do agree that they have to start taking the inside against Max. Or at least attempt to take it so that Max has to drive super defensively.

Ben1980
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Emag wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:34
In the end, Lando cost himself the win here, because he continues to treat Max like every other driver.

A rather boring race discounting the action in the first couple of laps, but this performance today is really ominous for the rest of the grid in the upcoming european hot stretch.
Not sure lando cost himself anything. He didn't really do anything wrong, was very unlucky at the start, and as the car is so good and the drivers so even, it was game over for the win.

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Norris had to fight for the place, you can't go into it and be scared of trying.

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Slahinki
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Crushed the competition today. Excellent work by the lads and the team! Shame about t2 for Lando, but what a performance!

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Lando was simply very unlucky at the start. He had no track to drive on and lost out.

FittingMechanics
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This whole "car ahead can force other off" needs to be dropped ASAP. It will start to cause crashes, Verstappen clearly doesn't want to give space if he isn't forced to by the rules and any time a McLaren starts behind him it will be a big issue.

It will be a major issue as the tensions rise.

Szabi1112
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Actually Oscar is more clever driver than Lando. He didnt stay in the outer line while wanting to pass Max. He knew what max (every driver) would do, Norris no.

FittingMechanics
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Szabi1112 wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:39
Actually Oscar is more clever driver than Lando. He didnt stay in the outer line while wanting to pass Max. He knew what max (every driver) would do, Norris no.
I don't think their approaches were that different, but Verstappen made a bigger mistake when defending against Piastri.

Emag
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FittingMechanics wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:36
Emag wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:34
In the end, Lando cost himself the win here, because he continues to treat Max like every other driver.

A rather boring race discounting the action in the first couple of laps, but this performance today is really ominous for the rest of the grid in the upcoming european hot stretch.
I really disagree with this. Norris was unlucky because he was a second car to attack Verstappen. Verstappen lost his tires and his pace dropped off. So Norris who relatively quickly overtook Verstappen lost a lot of time compared to Piastri (Verstappen had decent pace before Piastri overtook him).

I do agree that they have to start taking the inside against Max. Or at least attempt to take it so that Max has to drive super defensively.
No driver was ever going to take the position away from Max round the outside there in lap 1. I don't know why he bothered trying. It may work against a driver who leaves you space, but Max doesn't even leave you space when you're entitled some, there's no way in hell he is giving anyone unentitled space.

I don't blame anything about the later overtake attempts, Max wasn't going to fall for the same trick he fell to Oscar. But the lap 1 was entirely on him. He killed his race by trying something that has never worked against Max.
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What does the constructors look like, provisionally?
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Slahinki
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FittingMechanics wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:39
This whole "car ahead can force other off" needs to be dropped ASAP. It will start to cause crashes, Verstappen clearly doesn't want to give space if he isn't forced to by the rules and any time a McLaren starts behind him it will be a big issue.

It will be a major issue as the tensions rise.
It doesn't really matter where he starts honestly, as long as he for one reason or another gets a McLaren next to him he will try to force it off track.

geogate
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we are in a good place. Lando has a slight raw pace advantage, Oscar has a race craft advantage. it was a good race up to the tyre stops i thought

FittingMechanics
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Emag wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:41
FittingMechanics wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:36
Emag wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:34
In the end, Lando cost himself the win here, because he continues to treat Max like every other driver.

A rather boring race discounting the action in the first couple of laps, but this performance today is really ominous for the rest of the grid in the upcoming european hot stretch.
I really disagree with this. Norris was unlucky because he was a second car to attack Verstappen. Verstappen lost his tires and his pace dropped off. So Norris who relatively quickly overtook Verstappen lost a lot of time compared to Piastri (Verstappen had decent pace before Piastri overtook him).

I do agree that they have to start taking the inside against Max. Or at least attempt to take it so that Max has to drive super defensively.
No driver was ever going to take the position away from Max round the outside there in lap 1. I don't know why he bothered trying. It may work against a driver who leaves you space, but Max doesn't even leave you space when you're entitled some, there's no way in hell he is giving anyone unentitled space.

I don't blame anything about the later overtake attempts, Max wasn't going to fall for the same trick he fell to Oscar. But the lap 1 was entirely on him. He killed his race by trying something that has never worked against Max.
And yet, where did Piastri overtake Verstappen?

In T1 on the outside when Max was forced to defend deep and outbraked himself.