I expected the McLaren to be only slightly quicker than Max but yeah nothing like this.
Totally unexpected for me.
Only Adrian could stop them i fear...
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Imagine if they had free air from the start and stopped pushing in the end.
It's not just the tyres, mclaren simply has a lot more turn-in in all but the most high speed corners (like 230-250 or more), so maybe their peak downforce is not at RB level, but it doesn't matter because they're so much better in all other types of corners. They've had this advantage obviously since Miami last year.euv2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:05On tracks like Jeddah and Suzuka the win is anything but guaranteed, the MCL should have won both easily. The Imola update has to improve tyre wear and the working window for these tyres. RB, Merc all produce almost similar/slightly less amount of downforce but come race day they can't even sniff MCL's lap times even on fresh tyres.
I’m surprised that Norris and Piastri managed to fool you for so long.
This is generous. The Mclarens were 1 second a lap faster when they needed to be. It wasn’t even tire deg. It was there from the start.euv2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:16https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqIzBAGXgAE ... =4096x4096
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Max can win some races, if all circumstances are aligned, while McLaren can win all races unless something goes wrong for them.
Miami its mostly fast corners in sector 1 and slow corners in sector 2, MCLs favorite corner types don't exist here. I guess you could attribute a small part of it to their overall balance between fast and slow corners but the Mercs flex just as much if not more and don't have anywhere close to the same balance.Juzh wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:20It's not just the tyres, mclaren simply has a lot more turn-in in all but the most high speed corners (like 230-250 or more), so maybe their peak downforce is not at RB level, but it doesn't matter because they're so much better in all other types of corners. They've had this advantage obviously since Miami last year.euv2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:05On tracks like Jeddah and Suzuka the win is anything but guaranteed, the MCL should have won both easily. The Imola update has to improve tyre wear and the working window for these tyres. RB, Merc all produce almost similar/slightly less amount of downforce but come race day they can't even sniff MCL's lap times even on fresh tyres.
And yes, they also have much better tyre wear and a greater ability to keep tyres in a better working window which allows them to push lap after lap, while everyone else just overheats.
Qualifying incompetence and #4 masked the true potential of the Mclaren.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/marko ... /10719947/"The main conclusion is we are too slow," the Austrian said. "We saw when they were driving flat out, we are seven tenths of a second behind. We saw the real speed for the first time."
"We have to find some performance straight away, but it was depressing how quick the McLarens really are."
Asked if the next upgrade package would be enough, he replied: "It has to [be], but such a big step is difficult to catch up."
Marko acknowledged it would be tough to overcome McLaren's race pace advantage, which appears much bigger on circuits that feature tyre overheating.
also that, of course, but hot races where you can overtake will give chance to make up for that
On the bright side: now the pit stop blunder from the sprint seems way less annoying. It actually looks almost irrelevant.AR3-GP wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:48Max now 32 points off the lead of the championship. Likely to grow past 40 in Imola. The problem now is that to do a reverse Mclaren from last year, Red Bull would need to actually build a match or better for the Mclaren and have a 2nd driver taking points away from Piastri. None of these things are realistic as resources are moving towards 2026. 5th WDC is a fairy tale.
This is truePaa wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:52On the bright side: now the pit stop blunder from the sprint seems way less annoying. It actually looks almost irrelevant.AR3-GP wrote: ↑05 May 2025, 00:48Max now 32 points off the lead of the championship. Likely to grow past 40 in Imola. The problem now is that to do a reverse Mclaren from last year, Red Bull would need to actually build a match or better for the Mclaren and have a 2nd driver taking points away from Piastri. None of these things are realistic as resources are moving towards 2026. 5th WDC is a fairy tale.
