2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Juzh wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:04
F1NAC wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:39
Arrivabene, Binotto, Vasseur… not one improved pitwall communication.

I mean, you have one driver closing on other on alternate strategy and 7th and 8th in the race. Swap without hesitation. Still remebering that hockenheim 2018…
who's next in line? Seems Fred's time is up

Otmar has the experience in this.

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deadhead wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:06
IntrinsicVoid wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:57
I need the daily dose of Vasseur’s car has potential juice.
It's coming for sure :mrgreen:

I hope he says how the same car was the fastest in Jeddah!
Hahaha

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This is shameful

SB15
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McLaren set that car up perfectly

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Juzh wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:04
F1NAC wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:39
Arrivabene, Binotto, Vasseur… not one improved pitwall communication.

I mean, you have one driver closing on other on alternate strategy and 7th and 8th in the race. Swap without hesitation. Still remebering that hockenheim 2018…
who's next in line? Seems Fred's time is up
Is changing the TP the answer? Ferrari keeps doing this and things stay the same.
Fire Vasseur, the next guy comes in, he can't come in and fire everybody, has to get familiarized with how the team operates.
Then the team fails and the TP gets fired...
And nothing changes inside the factory or the pitwall because the next dude now needs to meet everybody and learn how the team operates.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:06
ismail1991 wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:52
I wouldnt agree with that. Lewis always tried to help the team previous races. He let leclerc go in China without teams asking. He had better tires he should have been let earlier by the team. He cooked his medium tires behind leclerc. Second swap happened when ham was only 2.2 behind. It was for nothing at the end. Ferrari is hopeless at managing this stuff. It was the same between Sainz - Leclerc. It will be the same between leclerc and hamilton. Ferrar strategists results this things happening. Btw I was thinking Sainz was more at fault but now thinking leclerc was the same To Sainz also
If you actually listened to the radios you'd know Leclerc said the second swap was a bad idea, he said they should just stay in position. Ferrari ignored him and insisted they swap back.

But I know actually watching the drivers instead of running with narratives to hate on them is difficult for some of you.
I didnt say I hate Leclerc, that is a big statement from you and you should correct it and apologize. This all happened because of ferrari strategists being soft and incomptetent and late to decide

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:13


This is shameful
the closest car to Mclaren's pace is 0.64 secs off..good lord lol but yea that Ferrari pace horrific

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Leclerc and Hamilton did a great race.
The car was literally impossible to drive. It was a miracle to finish ahead of one Williams.

mkay
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McLaren went hard after top engineers and we're finally seeing them reaping the benefits.

Ferrari on the other hand has been content seeing top engineers leave. They should go hard after Wache and other key engineers.

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IntrinsicVoid wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:07
Juzh wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:04
F1NAC wrote:
04 May 2025, 23:39
Arrivabene, Binotto, Vasseur… not one improved pitwall communication.

I mean, you have one driver closing on other on alternate strategy and 7th and 8th in the race. Swap without hesitation. Still remebering that hockenheim 2018…
who's next in line? Seems Fred's time is up

Otmar has the experience in this.
Tearing up Fred puts us in an 18 month rebuild. The SF25 is a mess but the SF24 was good. We finally have the engineers Fred hired in place. I think we wait till 7-8 races into 26'. If they produce another howler, then move on.

This isn't an online game, change comes with the penalty of time. If Fred really is that bad, then fair, move on, but we are then waiting until 27' or maybe 28' to see what his replacement achieves.

The non-answers and deflections from Fred have to be reigned in, it is frustrating to say "not extracting potential" when the car is clearly just terrible in Miami and the drivers are wringing the neck. It just read that Fred is taking the fans for fools.

If we are moving on, I'd love to get Vowles. He seems to have turned Williams around.



On the race.
Letting Lewis through cost Charles the chance to attack Kimi.

I understand Lewis' frustration but the swap was never an option with Carlos so close and Charles on the better tyre to the end. This team will be the death of me.

Can not wait for Spain, so I can be put out of my misery if we are still nowhere.

If a seat opens in 27', on a team that has nailed the next regulations, I would not begrudge Charles forcing his way out at all. I love Ferrari but they are wasting his talent.

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Xyz22 wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:20
Leclerc and Hamilton did a great race.
The car was literally impossible to drive. It was a miracle to finish ahead of one Williams.
It's only because Sainz was driving so poorly today. --- up the restart then almost crashed into Hamilton for no reason at the end. I guess he was feeling pressured since Albon was driving so much better.

ismail1991 wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:15
I didnt say I hate Leclerc, that is a big statement from you and you should correct it and apologize. This all happened because of ferrari strategists being soft and incomptetent and late to decide
I apologize then, but to be fair your comment said "I was thinking Sainz was more at fault but now thinking Leclerc was the same toward Sainz also" which implies that you think it's Leclerc's fault for what occurred with Sainz and by an extension Hamilton.

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Oh, an interviewer just asked Leclerc "so the team says the car has potential, what do you think?" and Leclerc rolled his eyes... :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:



I haven't seen any interviews from Hamilton yet but I will post when I do.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:22
Xyz22 wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:20
Leclerc and Hamilton did a great race.
The car was literally impossible to drive. It was a miracle to finish ahead of one Williams.
It's only because Sainz was driving so poorly today. --- up the restart then almost crashed into Hamilton for no reason at the end. I guess he was feeling pressured since Albon was driving so much better.

ismail1991 wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:15
I didnt say I hate Leclerc, that is a big statement from you and you should correct it and apologize. This all happened because of ferrari strategists being soft and incomptetent and late to decide
I apologize then, but to be fair your comment said "I was thinking Sainz was more at fault but now thinking Leclerc was the same toward Sainz also" which implies that you think it's Leclerc's fault for what occurred with Sainz and by an extension Hamilton.
Mate. I don't think English is his first language. He probably wasn't implying anything, it was just bad phrasing.

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flmkane wrote:
05 May 2025, 00:26
Mate. I don't think English is his first language. He probably wasn't implying anything, it was just bad phrasing.
English isn't my first language either. But anyway I already apologized and I was explaining my point of view about why I made that comment in the first place, nothing more.

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Neither driver was gonna catch Antonelli no matter when/if they swapped. Hamilton‘s medium was one lap older than Charles‘s hard. His tires would’ve fallen off anyway. They were hesitant because they knew this. It was only a matter of appeasing Lewis. I think the swap back to having Charles as the lead car was the right call. He qualified ahead of him, was faster than him throughout the race, it was the right thing to do.