2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

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Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

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Seanspeed wrote:
13 May 2025, 21:55
etusch wrote:
12 May 2025, 09:12
CHT wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 12:08
Marc Marquez totally destroyed his teammate both on and off tracks.
Pecco will have to start looking for a new team if he wishes to win championship again.

Marc moving Ducati and LH moving to Ferrari have so much in common, yet so different in outcome.

So sorry for Jorge Martin.
I didn't feel Pecco as a champion like MM, Rossi or Fabio. But at the end he succeed it. Now his performance prooves my previous feeling and I know there is people feels like me. But if he left team as you said, I think he will be finished. He should learn how to ride better and defeat MM with same bike to show us what he is.
It's been painfully obvious for many years that Ducati had the best bike on the grid and was constantly being let down by its lackluster riders. It was only when they created an extremely dominant bike that they finally started winning championships.

Like, I am 100% comfortable claiming that if you switch Dovi and Marc in 2018, that Marc wins the title. And not just cuz Marc is any sort of GOAT, but because if you put like some equivalent top rider on the Honda and the same on the Ducati, the Ducati rider would win out.

I think it might even be arguable before 2018 because prime Marquez was absolutely like Stoner in that he could do magical things with difficult-to-ride bikes.

Bottom line, Ducati has had the best bike for at least 7 years in a row, and the only reason they dont have more to show for it is because their riders haven't actually been that amazing. In fact, their riders have consistently been flattered by the Ducati, not the other way around.
I actually think MM is one of the GOAT and the journey he took to return to winning races again is indeed admirable.
Leaving Honda, take a big pay cut, ride with junior team for 1 year and then promoted to factory team.
How many GOAT in motorsports did that? And I think MM stories isnt over yet and he may still have some more good years ahead of him.

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Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

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CHT wrote:
15 May 2025, 00:25
Seanspeed wrote:
13 May 2025, 21:55
etusch wrote:
12 May 2025, 09:12


I didn't feel Pecco as a champion like MM, Rossi or Fabio. But at the end he succeed it. Now his performance prooves my previous feeling and I know there is people feels like me. But if he left team as you said, I think he will be finished. He should learn how to ride better and defeat MM with same bike to show us what he is.
It's been painfully obvious for many years that Ducati had the best bike on the grid and was constantly being let down by its lackluster riders. It was only when they created an extremely dominant bike that they finally started winning championships.

Like, I am 100% comfortable claiming that if you switch Dovi and Marc in 2018, that Marc wins the title. And not just cuz Marc is any sort of GOAT, but because if you put like some equivalent top rider on the Honda and the same on the Ducati, the Ducati rider would win out.

I think it might even be arguable before 2018 because prime Marquez was absolutely like Stoner in that he could do magical things with difficult-to-ride bikes.

Bottom line, Ducati has had the best bike for at least 7 years in a row, and the only reason they dont have more to show for it is because their riders haven't actually been that amazing. In fact, their riders have consistently been flattered by the Ducati, not the other way around.
I actually think MM is one of the GOAT and the journey he took to return to winning races again is indeed admirable.
Leaving Honda, take a big pay cut, ride with junior team for 1 year and then promoted to factory team.
How many GOAT in motorsports did that? And I think MM stories isnt over yet and he may still have some more good years ahead of him.
Exactly!

Some yellow buddies will tell you that Vale left Honda in 2003 and went to the worst ever bike on the grid (it wasn’t even far behind Honda…they just didn’t have proper riders)!

Yet when he joined a properly “bad” bike (it wasn’t cause it was winning races just 3 months earlier with Stoner onboard) in 2011…he couldn’t even touch the podium and he was crashing all the time…

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Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

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McLarenHonda wrote:
15 May 2025, 18:04
CHT wrote:
15 May 2025, 00:25
Seanspeed wrote:
13 May 2025, 21:55

It's been painfully obvious for many years that Ducati had the best bike on the grid and was constantly being let down by its lackluster riders. It was only when they created an extremely dominant bike that they finally started winning championships.

Like, I am 100% comfortable claiming that if you switch Dovi and Marc in 2018, that Marc wins the title. And not just cuz Marc is any sort of GOAT, but because if you put like some equivalent top rider on the Honda and the same on the Ducati, the Ducati rider would win out.

I think it might even be arguable before 2018 because prime Marquez was absolutely like Stoner in that he could do magical things with difficult-to-ride bikes.

Bottom line, Ducati has had the best bike for at least 7 years in a row, and the only reason they dont have more to show for it is because their riders haven't actually been that amazing. In fact, their riders have consistently been flattered by the Ducati, not the other way around.
I actually think MM is one of the GOAT and the journey he took to return to winning races again is indeed admirable.
Leaving Honda, take a big pay cut, ride with junior team for 1 year and then promoted to factory team.
How many GOAT in motorsports did that? And I think MM stories isnt over yet and he may still have some more good years ahead of him.
Exactly!

Some yellow buddies will tell you that Vale left Honda in 2003 and went to the worst ever bike on the grid (it wasn’t even far behind Honda…they just didn’t have proper riders)!

Yet when he joined a properly “bad” bike (it wasn’t cause it was winning races just 3 months earlier with Stoner onboard) in 2011…he couldn’t even touch the podium and he was crashing all the time…
Oh dear. The 2011 Ducati was completely different to the years before, using an all carbon fiber chassis that was way too stiff. It was an utter failure and Gigi will readily admit that.