2025 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, May 16 - 18

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cplchanb wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:38
total fail by imola and f1 to not have a tractor or crane at that spot.... that tractor literally went half a track just to get to the mercedes.....that cost ham a chance to catch pia at the end of race
Probably 2 more laps and he was past I think. Was good drive by Lewis

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Watto wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:39
Under the current guidelines not sure there is anything Charles did wrong.


I think Oscar was caught napping but the overtake by Max and car control was pretty impressive too.
oscar is too nice... he shouldve done a schumacher chop. also looked like he braked too early into turn 1.

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cplchanb wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:40
Sevach wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:37
Verstappen is gonna be champion again isn't he?
not so fast... he won mostly today because of the timely vsc which gave him a world of space to relax and give him tyre choice freedom for the sc.... had it been a normal race who knows how mclaren wouldve done on undercut...not to mention this track is like suzuka where its very difficult to make passes.
We've seen their attempt to undercut, they threw Piastri into a world of traffic.
Then Norris couldn't catch him either, at any stage.

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The upgrades helped Red Bull I'm sure but I would say that some of the pace was track specific and Verstappen executing everything and a lucky safety car/VSC. I mean look at how Ferrari's pace looked I wasn't expecting that. We'll get a better idea of how the pecking order looks in Spain but I think Red Bull still has work to do

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Sevach wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:41
cplchanb wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:40
Sevach wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:37
Verstappen is gonna be champion again isn't he?
not so fast... he won mostly today because of the timely vsc which gave him a world of space to relax and give him tyre choice freedom for the sc.... had it been a normal race who knows how mclaren wouldve done on undercut...not to mention this track is like suzuka where its very difficult to make passes.
We've seen their attempt to undercut, they threw Piastri into a world of traffic.
Then Norris couldn't catch him either, at any stage.
norris is quite trash at this track. but bear in mind theres only 1 real passing spot whch is turn 1. norris spent 2 laps falling further and further back so that once he cleared oscar there was no chance to catch max in time. mclaren bottled their strat today.

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Spacepace wrote:The upgrades helped Red Bull I'm sure but I would say that some of the pace was track specific and Verstappen executing everything and a lucky safety car/VSC. I mean look at how Ferrari's pace looked I wasn't expecting that. We'll get a better idea of how the pecking order looks in Spain but I think Red Bull still has work to do
Believe upgrades really opened some avenue for the Bulls. So championship might be open from now on.
Even on the tire usage, we didn't see any big advantage on the McL today

Ferrari race pace was great. Not expecting that. And Ham was unlucky to loose position to Ant on the 1st lap because after being able to clear, he was clearly faster.
Mercs pace was a bit of a disappointment today. They were just slow. Russel was lucky to be able to keep in front of Sainz

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miguelalvesreis wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:49
Spacepace wrote:The upgrades helped Red Bull I'm sure but I would say that some of the pace was track specific and Verstappen executing everything and a lucky safety car/VSC. I mean look at how Ferrari's pace looked I wasn't expecting that. We'll get a better idea of how the pecking order looks in Spain but I think Red Bull still has work to do
Believe upgrades really opened some avenue for the Bulls. So championship might be open from now on.
Even on the tire usage, we didn't see any big advantage on the McL today

Ferrari race pace was great. Not expecting that. And Ham was unlucky to loose position to Ant on the 1st lap because after being able to clear, he was clearly faster.
Mercs pace was a bit of a disappointment today. They were just slow. Russel was lucky to be able to keep in front of Sainz

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My guess was just that the free air allowed Verstappen's pace to look like that compared to McLaren. Although even when Norris got past Piastri after the safety car he couldn't close in on him so who knows. We also have to consider that McLaren's tyre advantage is degredation the problem in Imola is the rear tyres blistering

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Spacepace wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:43
The upgrades helped Red Bull I'm sure but I would say that some of the pace was track specific and Verstappen executing everything and a lucky safety car/VSC. I mean look at how Ferrari's pace looked I wasn't expecting that. We'll get a better idea of how the pecking order looks in Spain but I think Red Bull still has work to do
Verstappen had a commanding position before the VSC, 10s ahead of Norris and Piastri on burned out tires.
Can't put it down to getting "lucky" with the VSC in any way.

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18 May 2025, 16:47


norris is quite trash at this track. but bear in mind theres only 1 real passing spot whch is turn 1. norris spent 2 laps falling further and further back so that once he cleared oscar there was no chance to catch max in time. mclaren bottled their strat today.
Thursday they were calling him a specialist, remembering the time he fought for pole in a car that didn't deserve it.

Lando didn't make any significant progress after getting past Russel, after the VSC... and in the final SC Max settled things before Lando even got into a position to attack Oscar.

But sure let's just say it was just strategy...

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cplchanb wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:41
Watto wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:39
Under the current guidelines not sure there is anything Charles did wrong.


I think Oscar was caught napping but the overtake by Max and car control was pretty impressive too.
oscar is too nice... he shouldve done a schumacher chop. also looked like he braked too early into turn 1.
I don't think its Oscar is too nice I just think he was caught napping unusually for him. He was aggressive against Max and Kimi in recent races - pushed (as the rules allow) them off the track taking a dive up the inside though this time he was the on in the lead. Last year he overtook Lando when they were both battling Max was a little cheeky but the move was there and Oscar took it Lando wasn't too happy about it. But think it was just one of the little lapses Oscar still has.

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Sevach wrote:
18 May 2025, 17:00
Spacepace wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:43
The upgrades helped Red Bull I'm sure but I would say that some of the pace was track specific and Verstappen executing everything and a lucky safety car/VSC. I mean look at how Ferrari's pace looked I wasn't expecting that. We'll get a better idea of how the pecking order looks in Spain but I think Red Bull still has work to do
Verstappen had a commanding position before the VSC, 10s ahead of Norris and Piastri on burned out tires.
Can't put it down to getting "lucky" with the VSC in any way.
When did I put his lead down to luck? I said he got lucky with the VSC/safety car because he gained 10sec from the VSC

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Mogster wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:15
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18 May 2025, 15:12
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18 May 2025, 15:11
Poor effort from Piastri.
Nope, great effort from Max and poor effort from Russell, use the right words.
I was shouting at the TV, “watch out for the dive bomb”. It was that obvious.
Not the proper use of the word dive bomb.

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Max is just a racing nerd and genius. He eats and sleeps racing. He would have known how fast the car can go into turn one and done his usual swish through. Redbull have a nice post-launch acceleration and the best on the brakes.
I predicted this win. Once Max is on the front row it's his turn one. You cannot sleep on him! Piastri braked too early.
A similar thing happens each year, his sector 1 and turn 1 entry speed is crazy. Lovely win, and easy. The car is about similar pace to Mclaren now it's fair to say. McLaren still have a slight edge on average pace, but the clean air negated it.
A mix of fortunes because of the safety car, so cannot really say one McLaren driver did poor and the other did great.
A good race overall, just really bad safety car time. Too many laps lost to SC.
Russel was most unlucky here.
Max definitely will win this championship if he biases the car towards qualy. It is fast enough now without the balance issues. Piastri still does not have Lando's pace. Max gave him dust to eat in the first stint. A tough choice for McLaren to back one.

Alonso my driver of the race for his enlightenment over the radio on his whole career so far. :lol:
For Sure!!

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I think Oscar was too busy covering George and figured there was no way Max was going to try that. Max did.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
18 May 2025, 17:11
I think Oscar was too busy covering George and figured there was no way Max was going to try that. Max did.
He decided to defend the inside. He had to take it easy there. The problem was the suboptimal launch.
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RACE PACE
Main strategy: 1 set of mediums, 2 of hards
Gap (s/lap):
1)RBR (VER)
2)McL (NOR) +0.18
3)Ferrari (LEC) +0.58
4)Merc (RUS) +0.87
5)Williams (ALB) +0.95
6)RBs (HAD) +1.25
7)Alpine (GAS) +1.29
8)Haas (BEA) 1.32
9)Aston (ALO) +1.57

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