2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

I hope Red Bull are not focusing too much on upgrading the 2025 car and using resources there to the extent that it compromises next year. But some predicted that in 2021 with the championship fight and the RB18 was a beast anyways so who knows.

We have to be realistic. New PU will be the main limitation next year so it is more likely to be a "character building" year...

[avantman]

I hope Red Bull are not focusing too much on upgrading the 2025 car and using resources there to the extent that it compromises next year. But some predicted that in 2021 with the championship fight and the RB18 was a beast anyways so who knows.

If you call the overall distant 2nd fastest car the beast - ok then. Only toto and his push for TD039 made RB18 the beast.

[venkyhere]

Track temperature was over 40C.

1.
Max's RB21 ran the C5 (which is medium in Imola) which is actually the 'soft' tyre (for the GE era since 2022) for 30 laps, on a 40+ C track, with proper high speed braking and loaded fast/medium corners.
That definitely has to mean genuine progress on the tyre-life aspect.

2.
That under-sidepod-mouth 'strake' has to mean something for through-corner-balance, my instinct says. My non-aero-knowledgeable eyes can see the inside wheel 'wash' under yaw conditions (turning a corner) getting 'barriered away' from hitting the 'tub-wall' under the sidepod, where the boundary layer air from the sides of the tub-front can be left to it's purpose of whatever job it's supposed to do.

[AR3-GP]

After setting fastest lap on lap 58, GP got on the radio twice to tell Max to chill out...

[rbirules]

I hope Red Bull are not focusing too much on upgrading the 2025 car and using resources there to the extent that it compromises next year. But some predicted that in 2021 with the championship fight and the RB18 was a beast anyways so who knows.

How much is too much in your opinion? "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." The team has a chance at a WDC this year, and not just a WDC but a 5th consecutive WDC, which has only been done once in history (by a single driver, Mercedes won seven straight WDCs). Seems that's a goal worth pursuing, and pursuing pretty hard. Next year has pretty dramatic changes on both the PU and aero side, so a bit of a complete unknown especially since RBPT is a brand new PU constructor.

It will be interesting to see how much McLaren devotes to this year's car later in the season if they have the WCC wrapped up but Max is still right there with their drivers battling for the WDC.

[lio007]

I hope Red Bull are not focusing too much on upgrading the 2025 car and using resources there to the extent that it compromises next year. But some predicted that in 2021 with the championship fight and the RB18 was a beast anyways so who knows.

We have to be realistic. New PU will be the main limitation next year so it is more likely to be a "character building" year...

For sure it's David against Goliath in case of RBPT.
But there's still a chance the PU is going to be decent. Best in class, zero chance, but a repeat of 2014 is also hard to believe. They've hired some smart engineers.

[Henk_v]

I am hoping for a water/air inercooler in Barcelona

Somehow, something about the Honda engine keeps them using air/air intercoolers.

Makes sense the RBPT engine will be w/a. Makes sense to me to introduce it now. Get tighter packaging. Learn for a few months...

I can also imagine that the radical intercooler tech Merc started using in 22 might have been restricted for 3 years and is available now from the supplier.

[organic]

According to the Telegraaf there was a directive issued on the 12th may and enforced from Imola onwards that concerns the wheel bodywork and tyre treatment. The details of which aren't clear yet, but it may explain some of Waché's comments on the weekend

[Henk_v]

I hope Red Bull are not focusing too much on upgrading the 2025 car and using resources there to the extent that it compromises next year. But some predicted that in 2021 with the championship fight and the RB18 was a beast anyways so who knows.

We have to be realistic. New PU will be the main limitation next year so it is more likely to be a "character building" year...

For sure it's David against Goliath in case of RBPT.
But there's still a chance the PU is going to be decent. Best in class, zero chance, but a repeat of 2014 is also hard to believe. They've hired some smart engineers.

They even hired THE engineers responsible for 2014 (or at least a good chunk of them)

2026 will be all about power deployment. The ICE itself is in a way less important.

[venkyhere]

I am hoping for a water/air inercooler in Barcelona

Somehow, something about the Honda engine keeps them using air/air intercoolers.

Makes sense the RBPT engine will be w/a. Makes sense to me to introduce it now. Get tighter packaging. Learn for a few months...

I can also imagine that the radical intercooler tech Merc started using in 22 might have been restricted for 3 years and is available now from the supplier.

air to air IC is the reason the Redbull's engine cover and sidepods are so 'big' compared to the McLaren.

[f1isgood]

I hope Red Bull are not focusing too much on upgrading the 2025 car and using resources there to the extent that it compromises next year. But some predicted that in 2021 with the championship fight and the RB18 was a beast anyways so who knows.

We have to be realistic. New PU will be the main limitation next year so it is more likely to be a "character building" year...

So we assume. It is most likely to be the main limitation but I think it will be better than expected because right now everyone expects it to be completely useless. Also, I am very interested in seeing what Merc come up with given half their engineers are making RBPT engine.

[f1isgood]

According to the Telegraaf there was a directive issued on the 12th may and enforced from Imola onwards that concerns the wheel bodywork and tyre treatment. The details of which aren't clear yet, but it may explain some of Waché's comments on the weekend

So the checks did find something hmm. And there was a directive hmm.

[AR3-GP]

According to the Telegraaf there was a directive issued on the 12th may and enforced from Imola onwards that concerns the wheel bodywork and tyre treatment. The details of which aren't clear yet, but it may explain some of Waché's comments on the weekend

Thorough inspection of Mclaren rear brake ducts on May 4th. TD on May 12th.

[Cs98]

According to the Telegraaf there was a directive issued on the 12th may and enforced from Imola onwards that concerns the wheel bodywork and tyre treatment. The details of which aren't clear yet, but it may explain some of Waché's comments on the weekend

So the checks did find something hmm. And there was a directive hmm.

Or the checks found nothing, and the directive is just a clarification on something that was suspected/queried but not found. Similar to the Australia TD on mini-DRS.

[lio007]

We have to be realistic. New PU will be the main limitation next year so it is more likely to be a "character building" year...

For sure it's David against Goliath in case of RBPT.
But there's still a chance the PU is going to be decent. Best in class, zero chance, but a repeat of 2014 is also hard to believe. They've hired some smart engineers.

They even hired THE engineers responsible for 2014 (or at least a good chunk of them)

2026 will be all about power deployment. The ICE itself is in a way less important.

I meant the 2014 Renault PU.