2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Do you think Monaco will be better suited for us than Imola and we can have two Mclarens in the front row?

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FittingMechanics wrote:
20 May 2025, 15:20
The pace was probably slightly better for Max than in Japan, but it wasn't 20-30 seconds gap that it ballooned in the race into. If Piastri didn't lose P1 (or Norris had it), it's likely they would have won it. That is my point, circumstances of the race exaggerated the gap.

Good work to Max, that was a great victory.

Btw I want to mention Norris and his overtaking in Imola. He pulled off a strong overtake on Russell and later on against Piastri. Really solid work. Piastri also did well on his climb through hard runners but the pace difference was bigger against those cars.
It says alot about norris and oscar .. at the moment they are eddie ervin david coulthard level drivers in a newey like rocketship

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Henri wrote:
21 May 2025, 05:59
FittingMechanics wrote:
20 May 2025, 15:20
The pace was probably slightly better for Max than in Japan, but it wasn't 20-30 seconds gap that it ballooned in the race into. If Piastri didn't lose P1 (or Norris had it), it's likely they would have won it. That is my point, circumstances of the race exaggerated the gap.

Good work to Max, that was a great victory.

Btw I want to mention Norris and his overtaking in Imola. He pulled off a strong overtake on Russell and later on against Piastri. Really solid work. Piastri also did well on his climb through hard runners but the pace difference was bigger against those cars.
It says alot about norris and oscar .. at the moment they are eddie ervin david coulthard level drivers in a newey like rocketship
Agree!

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
20 May 2025, 22:24
Do you think Monaco will be better suited for us than Imola and we can have two Mclarens in the front row?
The car is very on the edge when pushed to the max for qualifying laps, so Monaco is probably the worst place for us.
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Oscar was at the weekend awarded the Lornezo Bandini trophy.

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Each recipient is honoured for their achievements over the course of the previous year. The recipient is selected by a panel of 12 judges composed of motor racing journalists and former Formula One team members.

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bauc wrote:
21 May 2025, 10:25
Darth-Piekus wrote:
20 May 2025, 22:24
Do you think Monaco will be better suited for us than Imola and we can have two Mclarens in the front row?
The car is very on the edge when pushed to the max for qualifying laps, so Monaco is probably the worst place for us.
First time we’ll see high downforce though
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
21 May 2025, 10:28
bauc wrote:
21 May 2025, 10:25
Darth-Piekus wrote:
20 May 2025, 22:24
Do you think Monaco will be better suited for us than Imola and we can have two Mclarens in the front row?
The car is very on the edge when pushed to the max for qualifying laps, so Monaco is probably the worst place for us.
First time we’ll see high downforce though
It'll be an interesting test. It feels like the peakiness is mechanical though, but it will be interesting to see what the car is like when it is the mechanical aspects at the forefront.

Whilst a rear limited circuit which should help Mclaren and Oscar, Braking on entry to corners is a very big deal here. I recall Button in the dog of the MP4-30 getting a result at Monaco and attributing it to the cars quality under braking. But perhaps if the car is set up entirely for this track some of the issues can be dialled out. But given that the recurring issue seems to be mechanical lockups or understeer under heavy braking, I'm nervous for the next race, especially given the tight walls.
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Last year the car was super dominant in Zaandvoort, Singapore and Hungary.

In Monaco it was right behind Leclerc. I think it's quite likely it will be the fastest car in race pace, but who knows if they can qualify ahead to make it work.

In Imola they tested a new high downforce rear wing so they are ready.

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Saturday pace is the big winner here and this is our Achilles heel. For the reasons mentioned above, I reckon there's the potential for a big banana skin moment here. There's likely no big comeback if Saturday goes awry.

But I may be being pessimistic, we'll see! I think we'll see Oscar perform well here, I guess I'm more concerned about how Lando will handle the car around the track.
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FittingMechanics wrote:
21 May 2025, 10:39
Last year the car was super dominant in Zaandvoort, Singapore and Hungary.

In Monaco it was right behind Leclerc. I think it's quite likely it will be the fastest car in race pace, but who knows if they can qualify ahead to make it work.

In Imola they tested a new high downforce rear wing so they are ready.
In Monaco '24 it was also most likely the fastest over one lap. Piastri was the fastest on theoreticals but could not put all his better sectors together. And Norris was compromised by that incident with a banner in Q1 where he had to stop and burn extra set of new softs, so he was left with only one new set in Q3. It wouldn't be also unreasonable to assume Leclerc made a bit of difference individually as a Monaco specialist.
The reality is Mclaren had a car to win all races since Miami '24 bar Vegas. There is no reason to believe their car would not suddenly be good enough to win in Monaco this year.

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I do think that Leclerc made the difference, just like Verstappen make it this year.

But let's see, at least we'll get some pitstop action this year.

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Henri wrote:
21 May 2025, 05:59
FittingMechanics wrote:
20 May 2025, 15:20
The pace was probably slightly better for Max than in Japan, but it wasn't 20-30 seconds gap that it ballooned in the race into. If Piastri didn't lose P1 (or Norris had it), it's likely they would have won it. That is my point, circumstances of the race exaggerated the gap.

Good work to Max, that was a great victory.

Btw I want to mention Norris and his overtaking in Imola. He pulled off a strong overtake on Russell and later on against Piastri. Really solid work. Piastri also did well on his climb through hard runners but the pace difference was bigger against those cars.
It says alot about norris and oscar .. at the moment they are eddie ervin david coulthard level drivers in a newey like rocketship
Can we stop with this crap already? Coulthard and Irvine were far inferior to Lando and Oscar.

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They have an opinion, it's fine. Most people will recognise the more daft ones and walk right on by, suggest you do the same.
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I suppose you are right. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion even a wrong one.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
21 May 2025, 11:30
Henri wrote:
21 May 2025, 05:59
FittingMechanics wrote:
20 May 2025, 15:20
The pace was probably slightly better for Max than in Japan, but it wasn't 20-30 seconds gap that it ballooned in the race into. If Piastri didn't lose P1 (or Norris had it), it's likely they would have won it. That is my point, circumstances of the race exaggerated the gap.

Good work to Max, that was a great victory.

Btw I want to mention Norris and his overtaking in Imola. He pulled off a strong overtake on Russell and later on against Piastri. Really solid work. Piastri also did well on his climb through hard runners but the pace difference was bigger against those cars.
It says alot about norris and oscar .. at the moment they are eddie ervin david coulthard level drivers in a newey like rocketship
Can we stop with this crap already? Coulthard and Irvine were far inferior to Lando and Oscar.
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