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[AR3-GP]

If they can just escape this weekend with a top 5 and no win for PIA, that would be a pretty decent outcome on a track which was never going to be brilliant for this car.

[f1isgood]

Think 2 to 3 tenths off pole was possible with a proper final lap. 7 tenths is just exaggerated gap.

I don't see it on the C6. I think 1.10.6 was the maximum. That was the pace from the end of Q2. Same as the banker. Then when he pushed S1 (2 tenths) the tires were fried in S2.

He would have gone quicker on the medium imo, but not enough for pole.

Yeah, I don't think even top 3 was on the table. We lacked pure pace of ~3 tenths at least. I feel maybe there was a 10.3 in the car. But maybe I am completely mistaken and what we saw was simply what the car could do (at least in terms of final position).

[Sergej]

I don't think anything more was possible with this tyre, you push in S1 but then tyres are fuc*ed for S2, maybe with the medium something more was on the table but it's difficult to say, as I told P4 is 3 tenths ahead.

[Paa]

don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them

We did not see, but Verstappens's S2 was yellow and he lost like 0.5 there, so probably there was a mistake.
With a bit more margin, he could have just back off there, go for a coold down lap and then have an other go. But leaving it for so late did not make this possible.

Wide in the hairpin and the turn before the hairpin. Probably mistakes but he sent 18.2 first sector (2 tenths up on anything previous) and probably killed the C6. A case of going much faster in 1 sector punishing the others.

But Q3 was decent again, no? If so, then I don't believe that tyres were dead, probably was just a genuine mistake by trying too hard.

[Vettel165]

Agree I expected this, we could use Hadjar as a blocking driver, pit at the right time and maybe a podium is possible. Will see its a lottery. Imagine if one driver stays out for a very long time, and the red flag comes, he can change the tyres for the second time and have a free pitstop. Gaining 20 seconds to the field.

[AR3-GP]

Agree I expected this, we could use Hadjar as a blocking driver, pit at the right time and maybe a podium is possible. Will see its a lottery. Imagine if one driver stays out for a very long time, and the red flag comes, he can change the tyres for the second time and have a free pitstop. Gaining 20 seconds to the field.

They aren't going to use Hadjar. At best Yuki can try and keep the Mercedes out of play.

[f1isgood]

We probably should have done a final medium lap. It is a race where no one can pass so not sure why we didn't even gamble after the banker. We had everything to gain and nothing to lose.

[Sergej]

Agree I expected this, we could use Hadjar as a blocking driver, pit at the right time and maybe a podium is possible. Will see its a lottery. Imagine if one driver stays out for a very long time, and the red flag comes, he can change the tyres for the second time and have a free pitstop. Gaining 20 seconds to the field.

Tomorrow it will be such a lottery that it's pointless bothering to imagine what can happen I heard that teams basically skipped the usual scenario analysis because there are so many that they couldn't handle them, they will adapt on the fly.

[venkyhere]

Guys, did anyone realistically expect pole from the RB21 ? if yes, wasn't it because of the 'hope' that Imola gave ? But Imola has fast and medium corners, here there is only a little bit of that in S1, and there the car was on par with Mclarens - the 18.2. Even without looking at data, I bet the 'losses' were through the low speed 'descent' from T5 to T8, through the lowe's hairpin. The fundamental problem with the RB21 (and the RB20, and the RB19 , and the RB18) - slow speed rotation without aero, purely from mech.grip - that's never gone. Kerb riding got a bit improved with Imola update, but slow speed weakness is still on the table.
This race was a writeoff anyway (just like Singapore is) with no 'Redbull redeeming' corners that are above 200kph - so relax, guys. Finishing P5 will not be a disaster result. Plus we know the race is an even bigger lottery now, than ever before. Who knows, the P5 can become P2 or even P10. Just 'dial out' this race and watch for enjoyment tomorrow. Both cars need to make it back "alive" without crashing, and be on the points. It isn't worth it, pushing to the ragged edge on a track that simply doesn't suit the suspension design philosophy of the car, right from it's birth.

[Sergej]

P4 was out reach even combining best sectors

[Vettel165]

Guys, did anyone realistically expect pole from the RB21 ? if yes, wasn't it because of the 'hope' that Imola gave ? But Imola has fast and medium corners, here there is only a little bit of that in S1, and there the car was on par with Mclarens - the 18.2. Even without looking at data, I bet the 'losses' were through the low speed 'descent' from T5 to T8, through the lowe's hairpin. The fundamental problem with the RB21 (and the RB20, and the RB19 , and the RB18) - slow speed rotation without aero, purely from mech.grip - that's never gone. Kerb riding got a bit improved with Imola update, but slow speed weakness is still on the table.
This race was a writeoff anyway (just like Singapore is) with no 'Redbull redeeming' corners that are above 200kph - so relax, guys. Finishing P5 will not be a disaster result. Plus we know the race is an even bigger lottery now, than ever before. Who knows, the P5 can become P2 or even P10. Just 'dial out' this race and watch for enjoyment tomorrow. Both cars need to make it back "alive" without crashing, and be on the points. It isn't worth it, pushing to the ragged edge on a track that simply doesn't suit the suspension design philosophy of the car, right from it's birth.

Amazing analysis, keep up the good work.

[GerryTT]

Start on the soft, pit for hards on the first lap and take advantage of the free track. By the time you reach the back markers you hopefully can pass them quickly and otherwise pit for the second time to get free air again.

[Vettel165]

Start on the soft, pit for hards on the first lap and take advantage of the free track. By the time you reach the back markers you hopefully can pass them quickly and otherwise pit for the second time to get free air again.

And if a safety car comes its game over. But a good idea if there are no red flags.

[AR3-GP]

P4 was out reach even combining best sectors
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I agree. It didn't change anything. Max never had anything for a Mclaren or Leclerc if they didn't make mistakes and with any luck he gets promoted a grid spot.

I don't mind this. The Mclarens are the "right" way around for championship purposes. Any play that Mclaren makes to sacrifice PIA in order to screw Max will also screw PIA, who is the championship leader.

I have no doubt that Hamilton would dedicate tomorrow to help Leclerc have a gap to pit into, so that impeding investigation is very important.

[AR3-GP]

Start on the soft, pit for hards on the first lap and take advantage of the free track. By the time you reach the back markers you hopefully can pass them quickly and otherwise pit for the second time to get free air again.

Overcuts are the only working strategy in Monaco now that cars cannot overtake. Max will not have "free track" pitting from P5 at the start. He'd almost immediately be on to the back of the grid and then stuck and unable to overtake and the gap would grow to the point that guys like Hadjar and Alonso would have a pitstop in hand.