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[Bill]

Redbull despite poor quali was as quick as mclaren on long runs

[f1isgood]

So we have maximized Saturday. Lets hope we can get Oscar tomorrow

[avantman]

I think that was clear underperformance from Max. Very disappointing not to put a clean 2nd lap in. The car is better but the lap time was even slower than last year, when he made a mistake on his second run as well. I mean it's clear the car was not as good as Mclaren and Ferrari and was again very tricky to drive, just look at Tsunoda. But I still expected more from someone so often compared with Senna.

[f1isgood]

I think that was clear underperformance from Max. Very disappointing not to put a clean 2nd lap in. The car is better but the lap time was even slower than last year, when he made a mistake on his second run as well. I mean it's clear the car was not as good as Mclaren and Ferrari and was again very tricky to drive, just look at Tsunoda. But I still expected more from him in Q3.

True but we got the best result possible, so yeah.

[Paa]

I think that was clear underperformance from Max. Very disappointing not to put a clean 2nd lap in. The car is better but the lap time was even slower than last year, when he made a mistake on his second run as well. I mean it's clear the car was not as good as Mclaren and Ferrari and was again very tricky to drive, just look at Tsunoda. But I still expected more from someone so often compared with Senna.

Probably Verstappen did not maximize the laptime, but the result is still maxed (with Hamilton's penalty). I don't think he could have achieved more than P4 today even with a perfect lap.

[bigblue]

Not sure what Yuki is alluding to, perhaps the quali strategy? Not putting him out a bit earlier and letting him build into Q2 seemed odd, he's not going to bang out a fast lap instantly, at the last moment, like Max can do. Not a great performance though, whatever the reason.

In the other Red Bull, Yuki Tsunoda was a disappointed Q2 eliminee with his run to 12th – suggesting after Qualifying that there was more to that early exit than meets the eye.

Asked what happened on his final lap, he said: “I mean, it’s not just the last push, it started in Q2, but it’s okay… I know what’s happened and I don’t have to talk [about it] here. I’ll try my best to score points. Monaco is always difficult, so let’s see.”

From formula1.com.

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Not sure what Yuki is alluding to, perhaps the quali strategy? Not putting him out a bit earlier and letting him build into Q2 seemed odd, he's not going to bang out a fast lap instantly, at the last moment, like Max can do. Not a great performance though, whatever the reason.

In the other Red Bull, Yuki Tsunoda was a disappointed Q2 eliminee with his run to 12th – suggesting after Qualifying that there was more to that early exit than meets the eye.

Asked what happened on his final lap, he said: “I mean, it’s not just the last push, it started in Q2, but it’s okay… I know what’s happened and I don’t have to talk [about it] here. I’ll try my best to score points. Monaco is always difficult, so let’s see.”

From formula1.com.

Marko said that Yuki was referring to the lack up updates on his car, but that honestly doesn't really make much sense to me.

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I just checked the onboards, and reason probably was that Tsunoda asked to pit for a new set of tires with ~3 minutes to go in Q2. He didn't have any new softs left at that point, though, so the team denied and told him to do a 2nd push lap on the same set.

Theoretically he could have switched to new mediums, but I honestly think staying out was the right call.

[AR3-GP]

I just checked the onboards, and reason probably was that Tsunoda asked to pit for a new set of tires with ~3 minutes to go in Q2. He didn't have any new softs left at that point, though, so the team denied and told him to do a 2nd push lap on the same set.

Theoretically he could have switched to new mediums, but I honestly think staying out was the right call.

Didn’t he have 5 sets of softs?

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I just checked the onboards, and reason probably was that Tsunoda asked to pit for a new set of tires with ~3 minutes to go in Q2. He didn't have any new softs left at that point, though, so the team denied and told him to do a 2nd push lap on the same set.

Theoretically he could have switched to new mediums, but I honestly think staying out was the right call.

Didn’t he have 5 sets of softs?

yes, and he had already used all but the Q3 set

[chrisc90]

Was it the hairpin that lost max the time? Was multi-tasking and it looked like the front didn’t bite into the hairpin so was a poor line on the final run

[euv2]

Was it the hairpin that lost max the time? Was multi-tasking and it looked like the front didn’t bite into the hairpin so was a poor line on the final run

Turn 5 went slightly deep there that meant he had to correct a bit coming into the hairpin. Comparing the onboards of LEC, MCL and Max, the difference in grip is easily noticeable. Max just can't find any grip throughout most of the lap, even turn 1 the car is not planted, the difference in the hairpin and the rest of the slow stuff in sector 2 is also huge, the fronts just don't grip and he has to wait too long for the car to rotate. A combination of high tyre temps resulting in low grip and the RB21s inherently poor mechanical grip.

[bigblue]

I just checked the onboards, and reason probably was that Tsunoda asked to pit for a new set of tires with ~3 minutes to go in Q2. He didn't have any new softs left at that point, though, so the team denied and told him to do a 2nd push lap on the same set.

Theoretically he could have switched to new mediums, but I honestly think staying out was the right call.

Ah, I thought he said something about traffic or strategy, and on Ted's notebook, Ted said Yuki thought the RB's slowed him down (possibly they had traffic too, and held him up?). Not sure how accurate that is, but it seems to fit the original quote from Yuki a bit better. Who knows.

[venkyhere]

I have a feeling that Redbull have blundered by wasting their 2nd medium in FP3. They ran a hard in FP1 for a few laps, but I don't know whether they have 'handed it back' or are keeping it for the race. Max has 1H, 1M and a bunch of used softs. The C6 won't last much on the Redbull (even if it does on the McLaren and Ferrari) so that would be bad starting tyre, unless there is a red flag over the first 4-5 laps ; which can't be predicted. I have a feeling they have blown their podium chances vide their sub optimal tyre allocation choices.