2025 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 23 - 25

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Re: 2025 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 23 - 25

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Seanspeed wrote:
25 May 2025, 22:09
venkyhere wrote:
25 May 2025, 20:47
Pleasantries first - congrats Lando, that was a weekend when you answered your critics. In style. Well deserved.
I mean, he barely got pole and the win in very clearly the fastest car on the grid. He deserved the win, but I dont know that I'd consider it a terribly impressive performance overall.
Yup. He’s got the fastest car last & current season. Everyone expected him to be the lead driver, instead Piastri is making him look ordinary driver. What Norris need is deliver consistent pole & wins + when you don’t have the best car of the weekend, that’s where your skill comes in to unlock that extra performance. Which he is currently behind .

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ringo wrote:
25 May 2025, 22:32
Monaco should be time attack ( qualifying with points awarded).
Saturday time attack for maximum of 12.5 points, with Q1, Q2, Q3, but 1.5hrs for the session instead of 1 hour.
and Sunday another round of the same knock out time attach for the remaining 12.5 points, another 1.5 hours.
The man with the most points over the weekend gets the big trophy.
And that's the end of the Monaco weekend.
This would be worth at least a test. There could even be some sort of "handycap" applied to level the field.
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Sergej wrote:
25 May 2025, 16:51
best race ever, hope they'll mandate 3 stops next year
They should just keep doubling the number of stops every year until it completely breaks the race, then back it off by one stop, and they'll know they've achieved maximum chaos.

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ringo wrote:
25 May 2025, 22:32
Monaco should be time attack ( qualifying with points awarded).
I think I would actually watch that. And then, make all the F1 drivers do an F2 race.

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Mostlyeels wrote:
25 May 2025, 23:34
Sergej wrote:
25 May 2025, 16:51
best race ever, hope they'll mandate 3 stops next year
They should just keep doubling the number of stops every year until it completely breaks the race, then back it off by one stop, and they'll know they've achieved maximum chaos.
Or! After every stop you have to reenter the track in the opposite direction. ;)

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Since this is a key race for all the sponsors and wealthy that undergird the entire sport, I'm pretty sure Liberty will not be able to bring themselves to do the right, and morally astute racing move, and let this out of date and irrelevant track go.

The FIA won't want to make the track faster or have any less slowing corners because then the outright speed achieved makes it too risky for the stadium seated fans, and they don't want any more drivers crashing into the ocean. I appreciate the pressure Monaco puts on the drivers to be perfect, absolutely, but my god, it's not worth the integrity of the sport (and I know there's none of that left, but dare to dream dammit).

One stop, two stops, different tire compound demands...it does not seem to matter. So why not just go for it and make it a 6 stop mandatory race? Sure that's farcical, but not as bad as today with teams strategizing to hold up the entire field to make 1 free stop. With 6 stops to be done, there won't be time to build a large enough gap and all drivers will drive balls out the entire race. Even with a red flag, there would be so many stops to make it would not matter till very late in the race.
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Chuckjr wrote:
26 May 2025, 03:24
Since this is a key race for all the sponsors and wealthy that undergird the entire sport, I'm pretty sure Liberty will not be able to bring themselves to do the right, and morally astute racing move, and let this out of date and irrelevant tr
This is like Columbia Tourism marketing 'hippopotamus tours' as the primary attraction in the country, to please one big and powerful 'sponsor'.

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I find another portion of fans outbursts after this year's edition to be quite strange. Amongst the top 5 this year was much better than last year at least simply because the pace was 4-5 s a lap faster for most of the race. There was some strategic component and more than real chance of exchange of positions in the fight for the podium. We should blame red bull strategy team for dropping the ball and robbing us of at least some excitement. Stop blaming Monaco. Of course 2 stop rule was a mistake which was clear in advance it was. Thankfully Verstappen running on a strategy developed by 'strategical genius' of Schmitz didn't get lucky with the red flag and we all got fully and the only deserved winner this weekend. Had Max won due to lucky red flag towards the end having realized the plans of those behind the new 3 tire sets rule, that would be just horrible. The race only looked worse than it should because of what Lawson and Sainz/Albon were doing. That should absolutely be fixed somehow. Otherwise it was quite decent Monaco grand prix not decided by luck, but rather by skill and merit.

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Intentionally holding other teams up equates to skill and merit? Ok.
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Chuckjr wrote:
26 May 2025, 09:39
Intentionally holding other teams up equates to skill and merit? Ok.
Whom did Lando, an ultimate winner, hold back?

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Hmmm. Last time I checked points are handed out to the top 10. Is the race to be fair for all drivers or just podium finishers?
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Chuckjr wrote:
26 May 2025, 09:39
Intentionally holding other teams up equates to skill and merit?
It can make you a legend, and the Mexican minister of defence.. :P

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Having four cars on track must be quite an advantage on tracks known for having DRS trains etc.

Monaco made it more obvious, but clear air gaps might be easier to come by when you have three team mates.

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Chuckjr wrote:
26 May 2025, 09:45
Hmmm. Last time I checked points are handed out to the top 10. Is the race to be fair for all drivers or just podium finishers?
Well, at least for the top 5 it was a race after all for most of the time. With the old one stop rule, it would not have been.
I think the 2 stop rule is good, might/should even be applied for more races.
They could simply use their power to put anyone playing games on a drive through. They have the rules and the data to do it.
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GrizzleBoy wrote:
26 May 2025, 10:06
Having four cars on track must be quite an advantage on tracks known for having DRS trains etc.

Monaco made it more obvious, but clear air gaps might be easier to come by when you have three team mates.
Luckily Vowles only has 2 cars.