
Yeah I had a look at it and he just lost a lot of time through traffic. It wasn’t a case of lack of pace per se but he just took longer than verstappen getting past the back markers. That was the main reason for him losing touch with the leading pack.Space-heat wrote: ↑25 May 2025, 22:18Tyres were 11 laps older over that stint but that does seems like a lot per lap…Hammerfist wrote: ↑25 May 2025, 21:20He lost 11 sec to verstappen from lap 29 to 39. Thats one sec per lap. I dont think he was pushing for whatever reason. I need to see his onboard during those laps. But why wouldn’t he try to stay close to Ver? If he stayed close he might have tried to undercut him and Max wouldn’t have tried to steal the race by waiting for a red flag. Weird.Space-heat wrote: ↑25 May 2025, 20:36
Quick notes from Multiviewer live timing.
TLDR Hamilton had no pace today. If he did, he and Charles could have worked for a win.
Lap 17
Hamilton released from Alonso (pit)
6.5 s gap to VER
Lap 19
Hamilton pit 1
6.7 s gap to VER
Hamilton pit out
25.2 s gap to VER
Ham 34.1 to lead
Ver 8.9 to lead
Lap 29
VER pit 1
3.5 s gap to VER on pit out. (Hamilton in mostly free air Lap 19-29)
lap 39
14.5 s gap to VER
Lap 49 (Hamilton in free air)
20.1 s gap to VER
Lap 57
ham pit 2
22.4 s to VER
pit out 43.6 s to VER
lap 78 - after VER pit
31 s gap to VER
Adami-Hamilton can't be compared to Bozzi-Leclerc. Bozzi was on Leclerc's team since he joined Ferrari and they've been pals for years. Even though Bozzi was green in those first few races, their immediate banter and ease with eachother is a great example of why the outside relationship is beneficial to the working one.r85 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 08:09Perhaps it's growing pains between the driver and engineer. However Leclerc and Bryan hit it off really well with how concise and sharp the communication is compared to Xavi or even Hamilton and Adami.
As far as performances go, Hamilton and Leclerc are doing a stellar job with the somewhat different circumstances they're in within the team. Charles is pulling everything out of that car while Hamilton is keeping up quite well in a completely team.
Hamilton has just come out of a long happy marriage with Bono, and he surely would've liked if he could've brought Bono together with him to Ferrari.ScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:23
We have to remember Hamilton is in a new and different environment, which may make gelling with Adami and co. a little more difficult (he probably has many other things on his plate than bonding time with his engineer.) As Hamilton settles into the team I'm sure things with Adami will also improve.
Not saying it is Addami's fault, just that they are not on the same wavelength. Some people hit it off immediately, some take time to Gel but this partnership seems doomed. The drop in Hamilton's performance when Angela left was marked, so he seems to build close associations and dependencies which are not there with this team. No ones fault, just human reactions.Cs98 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 16:03Swapping out Adami would just be throwing a bone to the mob. The problem is the car is too slow to win and Hamilton isn't as fast as Leclerc. That reality is stirring up emotions and Adami is an easy target for misdirected anger whenever he makes a mistake. Mistakes will happen regardless of who is engineering.
ThisLuscion wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 16:59I think people are being a bit dramatic, Lewis and Adami just need more time together, Adami isnt used to the way Lewis like his info, direct and short. Lewis and Bono were pretty rough when they first started together too and now they consider eachother brothers, it just takes time. Here's a few snippets from their early days
https://i.imgur.com/rB84DhV.png
There's no evidence of a marked drop in performance or an external issue, this is pretty much what you'd expect given what we saw from 2022-2024. Some people had unrealistic expectations and now Adami has become their scapegoat.Big Tea wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 16:46Not saying it is Addami's fault, just that they are not on the same wavelength. Some people hit it off immediately, some take time to Gel but this partnership seems doomed. The drop in Hamilton's performance when Angela left was marked, so he seems to build close associations and dependencies which are not there with this team. No ones fault, just human reactions.Cs98 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 16:03Swapping out Adami would just be throwing a bone to the mob. The problem is the car is too slow to win and Hamilton isn't as fast as Leclerc. That reality is stirring up emotions and Adami is an easy target for misdirected anger whenever he makes a mistake. Mistakes will happen regardless of who is engineering.
i dont think Adami is the scapegoat, there are genuine communication issues between them right now especially in Monaco if you listened to the radio, Ham didnt really have an idea what was going on for quite a few moments of the race and Adami's radio communication cost him 3 places in quali, but calling for Adami to be replaced is a bit much imoCs98 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:48There's no evidence of a marked drop in performance or an external issue, this is pretty much what you'd expect given what we saw from 2022-2024. Some people had unrealistic expectations and now Adami has become their scapegoat.Big Tea wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 16:46Not saying it is Addami's fault, just that they are not on the same wavelength. Some people hit it off immediately, some take time to Gel but this partnership seems doomed. The drop in Hamilton's performance when Angela left was marked, so he seems to build close associations and dependencies which are not there with this team. No ones fault, just human reactions.Cs98 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 16:03Swapping out Adami would just be throwing a bone to the mob. The problem is the car is too slow to win and Hamilton isn't as fast as Leclerc. That reality is stirring up emotions and Adami is an easy target for misdirected anger whenever he makes a mistake. Mistakes will happen regardless of who is engineering.
Well yes, but a certain poster here is never going to accept this.napoleon1981 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 02:22I think Hamilton has been over his peak for a while now. He also hasn't been living for the sport as certain others do, putting in the time in Sims etc. Leclerc is no Bottas or George Russell , who already had the better of Hamilton.
I agree, I don't think Hamilton's other activities have any relation to his racing. He still spends time in the simulator, goes to the factory, everything else he needs to do as a driver. Ultimately it's the car that's not up to par, which isn't something he can fix by himself. IMO What he does in his free time is none of our business.Seanspeed wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 20:17Well yes, but a certain poster here is never going to accept this.
That said, Lewis has been doing his 'celebrity ingratiation' stuff for a long time by now, so I dont think that's it. I think age is simply rearing its ugly head and making him less adaptable. Adaptability was always one of his biggest strengths, as it is for basically any great.
And I also think Russell is underrated and is probably one of the top 5 in the sport right now. I do rate Leclerc higher, but not by miles. Still, it's obvious that Leclerc was always going to be a very tough challenge for Lewis.