2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

Matt2725 wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:30
search wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:13
Live timing wasn't working 100% correctly today, but as far as I could see, both McLaren + Verstappen saved a set of new softs for tomorrow.
Think Merc may have also. They only used 3 sets of soft in quali at least for Russell.
yes indeed, Russell as well. Should be like this:

Image

I couldn't verify which used set LEC used at the end of Q2, though. So his best set of softs could also be 3 laps old.

avantman
avantman
10
Joined: 07 Dec 2020, 19:17

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

CjC wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:34
pantherxxx wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:16
Well, it's pretty clear by now that the new TD actually helps McLaren. It's a shame for the whole FIA for doing this — it's like they're intentionally working against having a close and interesting championship. Why favor a team that already had the best car? It makes no sense at all.
Seriously?
it barely made any difference. the wing is bending nearly as much or just as much as before. i don't know where that Idea came from that the wings won't be bending anymore. these TD never worked really. Teams just go around those static tests. If the FIA started to do real policing - ie looking at their cameras taking video evidence, then it would change something most definitely. But they already said - it would be too much work for a crew of 50 extra staff they do not have.

CjC
CjC
14
Joined: 03 Jul 2012, 20:13

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:39
CjC wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:34
pantherxxx wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:16
Well, it's pretty clear by now that the new TD actually helps McLaren. It's a shame for the whole FIA for doing this — it's like they're intentionally working against having a close and interesting championship. Why favor a team that already had the best car? It makes no sense at all.
Seriously?
it barely made any difference. the wing is bending nearly as much or just as much as before. i don't know where that Idea came from that the wings won't be bending anymore. these TD never worked really. Teams just go around those static tests.
Sorry, thanks for your reply but I made a terrible 1 word post.
The member who I replied to is a Red Bull fan- and it was Red Bull who appeared in the media along with Ferrari to be looking forward the most to this new TD, now it’s appeared to not have changed the competitive order in quali at least, the member I replied to is complaining about the FIA for bringing in the new test.
Just a fan's point of view

Dee
Dee
4
Joined: 25 Jun 2020, 02:07

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:36
Sergej wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:21
I think this was the hottest quali of the season so far ?
yes, of course. and I hope we all can now finally put the idea that the only advantage Mclaren car has is its ability to protect its tires from overheating to bed, after Max set purple third sector during the hottest qualifier of the year on the most demanding track.
That car is simply the best by far car aerodynamically.
Wasn't Max protecting his tyres with a yellow sector in S1 for the lap to have them at the end compared to Mclaren.,

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
381
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

Russell tow starting the final run was about 1.4 tenths.

Image

Image

sorry about the choppiness.
It doesn't turn.

avantman
avantman
10
Joined: 07 Dec 2020, 19:17

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:59
Did Max get into someones 'slipstream on his 1st Q3 run as well?

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
381
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:00
AR3-GP wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:59
Did Max get into someones 'slipstream on his 1st Q3 run as well?
Max didn't have any tow from anyone on any run in Q3.
It doesn't turn.

avantman
avantman
10
Joined: 07 Dec 2020, 19:17

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:07
avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:00
AR3-GP wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:59
Did Max get into someones 'slipstream on his 1st Q3 run as well?
Max didn't have any tow from anyone on any run in Q3.
too bad, last year he got a tenth and almost a tenth pole with it. an extra tenth from a tow would be handy today.

avantman
avantman
10
Joined: 07 Dec 2020, 19:17

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

Dee wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:58
avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:36
Sergej wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:21
I think this was the hottest quali of the season so far ?
yes, of course. and I hope we all can now finally put the idea that the only advantage Mclaren car has is its ability to protect its tires from overheating to bed, after Max set purple third sector during the hottest qualifier of the year on the most demanding track.
That car is simply the best by far car aerodynamically.
Wasn't Max protecting his tyres with a yellow sector in S1 for the lap to have them at the end compared to Mclaren.,
of course not, who protects tires in quali? if only the sky commentators that are pushing this strange idea all the time.
he went yellow by exactly as much as 0.01s

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
381
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:19
AR3-GP wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:07
avantman wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:00

Did Max get into someones 'slipstream on his 1st Q3 run as well?
Max didn't have any tow from anyone on any run in Q3.
too bad, last year he got a tenth and almost a tenth pole with it. an extra tenth from a tow would be handy today.
With a tow, he could have been in front of Lando Norris who was making plenty of mistakes again, but Lando Norris will probably still win the GP due to his superior tire management compared to his teammate PIA. What Max would do in this Mclaren...It would be utter devastation :lol:
It doesn't turn.

User avatar
atanatizante
125
Joined: 10 Mar 2011, 15:33

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

search wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:38
Matt2725 wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:30
search wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:13
Live timing wasn't working 100% correctly today, but as far as I could see, both McLaren + Verstappen saved a set of new softs for tomorrow.
Think Merc may have also. They only used 3 sets of soft in quali at least for Russell.
yes indeed, Russell as well. Should be like this:

https://i.imgur.com/XLNSnQX.png

I couldn't verify which used set LEC used at the end of Q2, though. So his best set of softs could also be 3 laps old.
I also gathered some tyre data according to the F1 app tyre usage and the last qualy session ...

Image

And here is my tyre situation for the race:

Image

According to Mario Isola, it seems that most strategies will be around a 2-stop race, switching the tyres between the C2-medium tyre and C3-soft tyre.

Interesting note: LEC has 2 new medium C2 tyres and RUS has 2 new soft C3 tyres, hence LEC might do an M-M-S and RUS an S-M-S strategy.

As for the front runners, they will all start on M tyres and it seems that an M-S-S or probably an M-M-S strategy will be the most favorite choice in the race ...
"I don`t have all the answers. Try Google!"
Jesus

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

atanatizante wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:29
I also gathered some tyre data according to the F1 app tyre usage and the last qualy session ...
thanks, I use the same sources, but as mentioned above, it wasn't very reliable today. Russell's last attempt was on new softs, for example, not on used.

And teams return 2 sets after every practice session, by the way, so they don't take quite as many tires into the race as on your list.

Nani_s23
Nani_s23
0
Joined: 04 Jan 2025, 00:38

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

atanatizante wrote:
31 May 2025, 18:29
search wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:38
Matt2725 wrote:
31 May 2025, 17:30


Think Merc may have also. They only used 3 sets of soft in quali at least for Russell.
yes indeed, Russell as well. Should be like this:

https://i.imgur.com/XLNSnQX.png

I couldn't verify which used set LEC used at the end of Q2, though. So his best set of softs could also be 3 laps old.
I also gathered some tyre data according to the F1 app tyre usage and the last qualy session ...

https://postimg.cc/gnXrqnG4

And here is my tyre situation for the race:

https://postimages.org/

According to Mario Isola, it seems that most strategies will be around a 2-stop race, switching the tyres between the C2-medium tyre and C3-soft tyre.

Interesting note: LEC has 2 new medium C2 tyres and RUS has 2 new soft C3 tyres, hence LEC might do an M-M-S and RUS an S-M-S strategy.

As for the front runners, they will all start on M tyres and it seems that an M-S-S or probably an M-M-S strategy will be the most favorite choice in the race ...
Russel doesn’t have 2 new soft tyres. It’s only 1.
Leclerc 2 new Medium & 1 used soft (did run till turn1 & backed out)

User avatar
McLarenHonda
3
Joined: 24 Nov 2024, 18:04

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

Don’t wanna draw any conclusions from Qualifying since I’m expecting Max to be leading again after Turn 1 with a move like Imola…but boy oh boy McLaren didn’t lose anything from this TD at least in time attack!

User avatar
ringo
240
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: 2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

Post

Lance Stroll is out due to a wrist injury.
I guess that means Drugovich in? Should be good.
For Sure!!