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[trinidefender]

Interesting that everyone in this thread is focusing on whether he had to give the position back or not (I'm not arguing that either way) but seem to be totally ok with that childish tantrum and completely unsportsmanlike behaviour crashing into George.

Is that really the type of driver you want to support?

You're imagining things, take a chill pill. I expect most people do not support road rage, but what are you expecting people to say really? To be your echo chamber? Also you dont get to say who people support and who they dont.

I edited my post and changed it from type of driver you support to supporting that type of driving conduct which I better think reflects the situation.

It has nothing to do with being an echo chamber, it's just about calling out driving standards and sportsmanship or lack thereof. Imagine if that contact took George or any other driver completely out of the race, would a simple 10 seconds in that situation be warranted?

As far as imagining things I'm not really sure what you're trying to imply. Are you saying it wasn't intentional?

[FNTC]

He didnt go off track, russell caused a collision that pushed him off the track

[rbirules]

Why the hard? Where there no other tires left? Max was from that moment on, absolutely not amused in the car, the whole race he was struggling.

Correct, no other tires left. He used the medium and three sets of soft.

Ok, for a moment I thought it was poor strategy.

I think you can very much argue it was a poor strategy. First place on older used softs or third on the worst tire?

[organic]

Max should've brought points home. He's the best driver but tantrum moments for a 27 year old are not a great look. It's possible he's aiming to deliberately sabotage his WDC position to exit the team

[Sergej]

they did absolutely wrong asking Max to let George

No he retained his position by going off track.

He was lucky not to get ten for not giving back the position and another 10 for causing a collision and 4 penalty points.

no he was pushed out track because George lost control mid corner

[ringo]

they did absolutely wrong asking Max to let George

No he retained his position by going off track.

He was lucky not to get ten for not giving back the position and another 10 for causing a collision and 4 penalty points.

no he was pushed out track because George lost control mid corner

But he was not ahead, so he has no justification to say ok I am going to be ahead of you now.
It's very straight forward.

[Watto]

they did absolutely wrong asking Max to let George

No he retained his position by going off track.

He was lucky not to get ten for not giving back the position and another 10 for causing a collision and 4 penalty points.

They are going through the footage now.

George tucked up behind Charles, right alongside Max, George gets a snap of oversteer, has to correct straightens the wheel into Max; George had the right to the corner as he was sufficiently alongside but the rules state you need to be in control of the car at all times, George wasn't which I think is generally a penalty.

Not excusing Max he was clearly in the wrong for running into George later.

[Watto]

Max should've brought points home. He's the best driver but tantrum moments for a 27 year old are not a great look. It's possible he's aiming to deliberately sabotage his WDC position to exit the team

Must say you wonder that a little

[Sergej]

No he retained his position by going off track.

He was lucky not to get ten for not giving back the position and another 10 for causing a collision and 4 penalty points.

no he was pushed out track because George lost control mid corner

But he was not ahead, so he has no justification to say ok I am going to be ahead of you now.
It's very straight forward.

if he's not in control of the car he loses the right

[AR3-GP]

Leclerc collision




Russell collision


Max didn't do anything wrong in these 2 moments. Lec hit him, then Russell hit him in T1.

[Watto]

Interesting that everyone in this thread is focusing on whether he had to give the position back or not (I'm not arguing that either way) but seem to be totally ok with that childish tantrum and completely unsportsmanlike behaviour crashing into George.

Is that really the type of driver you want to support?

You're imagining things, take a chill pill. I expect most people do not support road rage, but what are you expecting people to say really? To be your echo chamber? Also you dont get to say who people support and who they dont.

I edited my post and changed it from type of driver you support to supporting that type of driving conduct which I better think reflects the situation.

It has nothing to do with being an echo chamber, it's just about calling out driving standards and sportsmanship or lack thereof. Imagine if that contact took George or any other driver completely out of the race, would a simple 10 seconds in that situation be warranted?

As far as imagining things I'm not really sure what you're trying to imply. Are you saying it wasn't intentional?

I've read it as most here have said Max was in the wrong for the incident with George and it deserved a penalty. Just that the call to give George the position was a bit odd when it seemed George caused the contact; at the very least RBR could have argued the point post race

[SirBastianVettel]

It's possible he's aiming to deliberately sabotage his WDC position to exit the team

He should. His time with this team is done. I'd go to Mercedes if I were him. Team is drained from talent and Mercedes will almost certainly have the best engine.

[Bill]

Too many pitstops .redbull lost their chief strategist to mclaren ,Hannar maybe the face of strategy team but their real chief left for rival team.Hotter temperatures may have lead to high tire wear .Max should have finished p3 and scored with both cars if not for too many stops.tim goss is doing great jop at vcarb ,the guy worked for mclaren in the past maybe the team need to look at building a balanced car like mclaren as it look like they had hit the celling.

[toraabe]

It's possible he's aiming to deliberately sabotage his WDC position to exit the team

He should. His time with this team is done. I'd go to Mercedes if I were him. Team is drained from talent and Mercedes will almost certainly have the best engine.

Why. No reason to hire Max... He needs to go to a Psychiatrist

[Dee]

Leclerc collision
https://i.postimg.cc/prBwJxWD/LEC-collision.gif



Russell collision
https://i.postimg.cc/ZqCJY9TX/Rus-Spain-Collision.gif

Max didn't do anything wrong in these 2 moments. Lec hit him, then Russell hit him in T1.

Exactly.

GP saying "that's what racing is now" in response to asking him to give the place back to Russell is what pushed him over the edge. Vettel got 3 penalty points after hitting Hamilton, I'd say that might also be the case after the stewards meeting.