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[CjC]

Silly mistake from Lando there. Ruined his own race and has to take 100% responsibility.

Oscar will be getting a penalty or 3 for overtaking on the in lap too.

Who did they overtake on the in lap?

[chrisc90]

Do you have Oscar's onboard as well?

[Ben1980]

Guess he is talking about the way he drove against Norris, even when Norris got in front, he still managed to out brake him and stay in front, and right after Norris showed why he ain't made of champion material

Again, I'd say not trying a move, and settling, shows less champion material.

He crashed himself out of the race when he would have made the move stick and got the place soon enough, yet you're finding a way to applaud it.

It was a dip in form from Oscar this weekend but he comes away with nearly a race win between him and Lando in the standings despite it.

I'll applaud trying to overtake, even for 2 points. He messed it up, but, he was struggling to get past him anyway and laps were running out.

Yes, its impacted his title fight, but I'd can live with him trying something, even if he ballsed it up.

[mwillems]

Again, I'd say not trying a move, and settling, shows less champion material.

He crashed himself out of the race when he would have made the move stick and got the place soon enough, yet you're finding a way to applaud it.

It was a dip in form from Oscar this weekend but he comes away with nearly a race win between him and Lando in the standings despite it.

I'll applaud trying to overtake, even for 2 points. He messed it up, but, he was struggling to get past him anyway and laps were running out.

Yes, its impacted his title fight, but I'd can live with him trying something, even if he ballsed it up.

But you're not just applauding an overtake attempt. You've applauding a very poorly thought overtaking attempt that could have taken them both out when the place was his sooner or later. I feel that in light of his mistakes, there is never a situation where he's done wrong in your eyes.

It's your opinion and I respect it, but like I say. Odd.

[Watto]

Again, I'd say not trying a move, and settling, shows less champion material.

He crashed himself out of the race when he would have made the move stick and got the place soon enough, yet you're finding a way to applaud it.

It was a dip in form from Oscar this weekend but he comes away with nearly a race win between him and Lando in the standings despite it.

I'll applaud trying to overtake, even for 2 points. He messed it up, but, he was struggling to get past him anyway and laps were running out.

Yes, its impacted his title fight, but I'd can live with him trying something, even if he ballsed it up.

The unusual thing for me with the whole sequence was it was Lando trying to catch someone by surprise one thing I always question with Lando is he is predictable doesn't really try overtaking where no one is expecting, though it was positive he did today. Just he then took it one step too far.

[f1isgood]

Lando simply got desperate and his desperation meant he threw away a chunk of points to Oscar. Piastri is going to take this title now unless Lando can find something and I doubt Lando will find something given 10 races are already done this year. Piastri is the very clear WDC favorite now.

[mwillems]

Ahh man, it's early doors. One DNF and it might not be a Mclaren driver leading the standings if results don't go our way.

[venkyhere]

It had to happen sometime this year. And it did, eventually, in race 10.

However, unlike the coming together like Hamilton-Rosberg, Ricciardo-Max, Vettel-LeClerc ; the drivers and the team are going to deal with it much more calmly and maturely. Norris immediately owned up to the mistake and that's 90% of the problem solved right there. I like how honest Norris is (at times to his disadvantage), a quality very rare amongst racing drivers.

Now, there is no doubt that Mclarens had more race pace than Max and Antonelli, just that their quali positions and 'reaction mode' in terms of pitstops cost them P2-P3. Norris obviously the more talented in maintaining good race pace without killing tyres, than Piastri. That said, Norris lacks a little bit of wheel-to-wheel 'craft' compared to the other 'big hitters'. And we have seen it many times, not just this once. He was driving in to a rapidly diminishing wedge and it was too late when he realized it. It's great fortune that it didn't result in a double DNF.

Those who are baying for Piastri blood, need to watch the replays - they will realize that he wasn't making any last second 'dinks' or 'lane changes' and was close to the racing line itself. Nothing wrong with the way he defended the inside of T13 (which actually helped Norris get a superb exit from T14) either, before this crash happened.

I am sure McLaren (Stella in particular) are well capable of dousing the fires and get back to 'let them race' mentality, because contrary to popular opinion (of which I too was guilty of, earlier this season) they are the only team who seem to have been able to 'HR-ify their way past ego issues' amongst two strong drivers within the team. I haven't seen a team deal with this better, and I have been watching F1 for a really long time. I sincerely hope this one incident doesn't become Hamilton-Rosberg or Ricciardo-Verstappen.

[Slahinki]

Do you have Oscar's onboard as well?

Thanks, shame they only have the rear facing camera for though.

[Ben1980]

He crashed himself out of the race when he would have made the move stick and got the place soon enough, yet you're finding a way to applaud it.

It was a dip in form from Oscar this weekend but he comes away with nearly a race win between him and Lando in the standings despite it.

I'll applaud trying to overtake, even for 2 points. He messed it up, but, he was struggling to get past him anyway and laps were running out.

Yes, its impacted his title fight, but I'd can live with him trying something, even if he ballsed it up.

But you're not just applauding an overtake attempt. You've applauding a very poorly thought overtaking attempt that could have taken them both out when the place was his sooner or later. I feel that in light of his mistakes, there is never a situation where he's done wrong in your eyes.

It's your opinion and I respect it, but like I say. Odd.

He's messed it up, of course he was in the wrong. The outcome has hampered him in the title.

But, i don't mind him trying something even if it goes wrong. It tried sonething earlier and almost got it right. The only way he is overtaking was with a surprise attempt. He just pulled the wrong one.

But, I like that he gave it a go.

[CjC]

Ahh man, it's early doors. One DNF and it might not be a Mclaren driver leading the standings if results don't go our way.

Think you have missed Oscar out in your calcs. He’s 43 points ahead of Max. 25 for the win as you know.

[mwillems]

That's fair enough. My opinion is that I expect all round better judgement from him. It's ridiculous what he can get the car to do from a technical standpoint on a Sunday. His inability to consistently put himself into a position to make best use of it, or to be able to make clinical decisions in the race... is just really frustrating. Not even Max is better at race pace than Lando, in my opinion. Anyway, on to the next race now. Austria will be a happier hunting ground for both our drivers.

[mwillems]

Ahh man, it's early doors. One DNF and it might not be a Mclaren driver leading the standings if results don't go our way.

Think you have missed Oscar out in your calcs. He’s 43 points ahead of Max. 25 for the win as you know.

Yeah I explained myself wrong. I mean to say, A few more races like today and Max can creep up to a position where a DNF could give him a championship lead. A bit dramatic, but the overall point being, at this stage of the season, we don't have a commanding lead yet.

[K1Plus]

Ahh man, it's early doors. One DNF and it might not be a Mclaren driver leading the standings if results don't go our way.

Think you have missed Oscar out in your calcs. He’s 43 points ahead of Max. 25 for the win as you know.

Yeah I explained myself wrong. I mean to say, A few more races like today and Max can creep up to a position where a DNF could give him a championship lead. A bit dramatic, but the overall point being, at this stage of the season, we don't have a commanding lead yet.

Don't count George out in this scenario. He seems to be the - show up, do your job, do it cleanly.

[Ben1980]

The issue being that the drivers and car are so evenly matched, you aren't overtaking without a big tyre offset or well attempting something. Which is why Saturday is so important.

Bad Saturdays, as this week for both, shows that the car is better in clear air.

The reality is, Lando should have been waved through to attack Kimi if Piastri couldn't do it. If they had acted together even Max was potentially get able.

Onto Austria, and watching the Mercs again, as they look more a threat than Red Bull