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Who? I do not think they exist. Who gives a .... about a German team in Britain?
Thank you! Just do not name it, some have a trigger on this.
What a load of utter tripe. Happy to ignore all the times Lewis "left time on the table" of course. Or the countless races where Russell was faster on race pace.AR3-GP wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025, 16:23
Well the facts are George Russell never beat that teammate on pace at Spa or Hungary in any season. So with people lining up in this thread to have a go at the team because of these races, they should consider Russell’s own role in limiting the performance. Mercedes shouldn’t have to overdesign the car to compensate for Russell leaving a bunch of time on the table.
There were races where Russell was the fastest Mercedes driver in previous seasons however they are not relevant to Spa or Hungary which are the races in the current double header. Russell always struggled at these two circuits. I think Mercedes could have fought for P3 in Spa.Matt2725 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025, 14:04AR3-GP wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025, 16:23What a load of utter tripe. Happy to ignore all the times Lewis "left time on the table" of course. Or the countless races where Russell was faster on race pace.
What's the point of comparing pace vs Piastri? You might as well put Hamilton up there as he was even slower for 90% of the race. Funny how that works out in a non-spec series.
Mods are we really allowing blatant trolling on the forum now?
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/what ... pen-fakes/"People go into summer and do you want to get something sorted [then]? I mean, realistically, is that going to be the case? I don't know.
"There is still no contract on the table, so to have something done in the space of two weeks is unlikely, and it's got to work both ways."
- SkysportsF1George Russell is set for a multi-year extension that would keep him with the team until at least the end of 2027.
- And on the car, is there any specific reason why we don't look to have the pace that we did have in those first few rounds, and comparing now to how quick the Ferraris are looking as well ?
James Allison: ..It isn't that everyone magically has put on the same size upgrade and crept up around you through that. And even if you ignore the lap times completely, you ignore the points that we are not getting anymore, like we did earlier in the year, and you just focus on what the drivers are telling us about the car, they're telling us that the car of today, and of the last handful of races, is a car that is suffering from instability under braking in high speed, and turning in high speed, in a way that it wasn't doing earlier in the year. Earlier in the year, it was a relatively easy car to set up, relatively easy to sort of pitch it up in qualifying for it to do OK.
It was not enough to be championship competitive, but it was a whole sight easier to deal with than the one we have to do today. The downside of that, of course, is it's dispiriting when we've made a lot of effort to improve the car, and we have not. The upside of it is that if you've done it yourself, which we have, it is comparatively easier to unpick that, because you just have to retrace your steps a bit, understand which of the steps you took that was in the wrong direction, and then move forward from there. It hurts, but it hurts less than, let's say, if you launched a car with gremlins inside it, and you just had no idea what it was. If you’ve gone from a sort of relatively manageable beast to one that isn't, and you know you only did X, Y, and Z in between, then you have a path backwards.
James, the problem is that it's been the same thing since Zandvoort 2024..Lasssept wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025, 23:19- And on the car, is there any specific reason why we don't look to have the pace that we did have in those first few rounds, and comparing now to how quick the Ferraris are looking as well ?
James Allison: ..It isn't that everyone magically has put on the same size upgrade and crept up around you through that. And even if you ignore the lap times completely, you ignore the points that we are not getting anymore, like we did earlier in the year, and you just focus on what the drivers are telling us about the car, they're telling us that the car of today, and of the last handful of races, is a car that is suffering from instability under braking in high speed, and turning in high speed, in a way that it wasn't doing earlier in the year. Earlier in the year, it was a relatively easy car to set up, relatively easy to sort of pitch it up in qualifying for it to do OK.
It was not enough to be championship competitive, but it was a whole sight easier to deal with than the one we have to do today. The downside of that, of course, is it's dispiriting when we've made a lot of effort to improve the car, and we have not. The upside of it is that if you've done it yourself, which we have, it is comparatively easier to unpick that, because you just have to retrace your steps a bit, understand which of the steps you took that was in the wrong direction, and then move forward from there. It hurts, but it hurts less than, let's say, if you launched a car with gremlins inside it, and you just had no idea what it was. If you’ve gone from a sort of relatively manageable beast to one that isn't, and you know you only did X, Y, and Z in between, then you have a path backwards.
I think the change was to mitigate the issues in the slow speed, but really they didn't need to change anything because it suited Kimi's driving style well. They could've adjusted the Anti-lift ever so slightly. Tyre temps was the only issue on the W16, and this looks like James Allison stepped in for this weekend instead of Simone Resta.OverheatedTurbo wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025, 15:17Well, at least they are doing something. Just make the car faster.
I remember someone posting a stiff rebuttal to the above (bold) claim I made, in this thread. Unable to find the post now, probably got deleted by self/admin-cleanup. See what Russel has finally admitted :venkyhere wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025, 22:53I think these two races before the summer break - Spa and Hungaroring, will be when the gloves come off between RUS and VER and some fiesty on track action ensues; because of the ego hurt that RUS is going to feel to see his boss 'wait on' his arch rival's whims and fancies, while holding him off from a new contract. All these 'im cool with it' comments exactly point to the opposite, as they usually do.
Toto too must learn from the lesson that Vowles got, seeing where his diva driver is today w.r.t the incumbent driver, after getting stood up by the diva on contract-with-champagne date night. More than anything, decisions in F1 are like bets in a casino.
Russell admits Verstappen’s potential move put his seat at risk
Despite his confident tone, Russell does acknowledge there was a risk. "Now of course these last six months have been a very unique situation where I don't have a huge power in that sort of agreement and maybe the interests were not aligned for some time, which has of course put me at risk for these last six months. But then it was my job to perform and reduce that risk."
The fact that talks between Verstappen and Mercedes had become more serious is something Russell indirectly confirms. "Of course for both Kimi and I these past months have not been the most assuring for our future and that's just been, yeah, a bit conflicting. I still trust Toto and I still trust in the team that they will always support me as long as I am performing. So that's what I need to focus on."
