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[GrizzleBoy]

I'm skeptical on that chassis issue, Charles was talking about managing "the issue" before pitting, how can you manage chassis damage. The car had issues with both drivers

As far as I understand it what they mean is

Underfueling = problem for both cars happened the entire race

Engine problem = happened the entire race and subject of Leclerc's initial complaints

"Front wing" = Leclerc thought they messed it up and this is what he was talking about on the radio mid-race

Chassis = problem in the last stint which cost 1+ seconds per lap

I don't know if this is true or not but that's the timeline.

Ant on Skypad showed video from Piastris nosecam very excessive plank dust JUST from the grid to T1 on the first lap alone.

So just imagine what was happening lap after lap on heavy fuel with the speed of the whole main straight with all aero surfaces fully loaded.

There's no way Ferrari admit plank wear issues to the public even if it is true.

[ScuderiaLeo]

[yooogurt]

HUH?

[AR3-GP]

Russell of all people joining in... same theory as what Sky said earlier

This makes way more sense than the broken chassis.

The "due to changing the engine mapping" part reads like bs. First the story was the aero was too powerful for the suspension, and now it's the engine that's too powerful?

This entire season has been one massive propaganda campaign about "potential" in order to save face. They run the car in unsustainably low configurations to create the mirage of pace, and then covered it up with "brake issue", "chassis problem", "overheating". We saw the real picture of the season in Australia and the China Sprint.

The suspension from the promise land is on the car. The new floor is on the car. They still don't have any performance when the car is running at legal ride heights. So they run it extremely low because the floor doesn't work any other way. Ferrari would rather run the car like this and sell the narrative that the 1st stint was the "potential" instead of running the car at a higher ground clearance and struggling to make Q3. It's a face saving campaign full of fairy tales brought to you by Frederick Vasseur.

[yooogurt]

The "due to changing the engine mapping" part reads like bs. First the story was the aero was too powerful for the suspension, and now it's the engine that's too powerful?

This entire season has been one massive propaganda campaign about "potential" in order to save face. They run the car in unsustainably low configurations to create the mirage of pace, and then covered it up with "brake issue", "chassis problem", "overheating". We saw the real picture of the season in Australia and the China Sprint.

The suspension from the promise land is on the car. The new floor is on the car. They still don't have any performance when the car is running at legal ride heights. So they run it extremely low because the floor doesn't work any other way. Ferrari would rather run the car like this and sell the narrative that the 1st stint was the "potential" instead of running the car at a higher ground clearance and struggling to make Q3. It's a face saving campaign full of fairy tales brought to you by Frederick Vasseur.

What does Georges Rassel have to do with Ferrari propaganda? HUH?

[ScuderiaLeo]

Last year Ferrari won Monza on a one stop and amazing tire management. Zero chance that happens again this season...

[Xyz22]

Russell of all people joining in... same theory as what Sky said earlier

This makes way more sense than the broken chassis.

The "due to changing the engine mapping" part reads like bs. First the story was the aero was too powerful for the suspension, and now it's the engine that's too powerful?

This entire season has been one massive propaganda campaign about "potential" in order to save face. They run the car in unsustainably low configurations to create the mirage of pace, and then covered it up with "brake issue", "chassis problem", "overheating". We saw the real picture of the season in Australia and the China Sprint.

The suspension from the promise land is on the car. The new floor is on the car. They still don't have any performance when the car is running at legal ride heights. So they run it extremely low because the floor doesn't work any other way. Ferrari would rather run the car like this and sell the narrative that the 1st stint was the "potential" instead of running the car at a higher ground clearance and struggling to make Q3. It's a face saving campaign full of fairy tales brought to you by Frederick Vasseur.

Ferrari was using a very conservative engine map in the main straight, on this Russell was right. And it was not due to LiCo. You can check by yourself with the telemetry.
Having said that i don't know what the issue was, i still think is related to plank wear.
The chassis was broken story is 99% fake.

[ToffeeTyres]

I don’t buy into the plank wear. The problem in china it was a sprint weekend that’s the problem with sprints weekends. Maybe Ferrari has been spooked by it if it is the plank but I think they under fuel the cars too much lift and coast Lewis had to from like lap 7 for crying out loud that is shocking also brake ducts with brake temps Hamilton said over the radio he’s hardly using them as in late braking hard certainly an issue not enough cooling. Got to feel for Charles that was awful to watch. Things need to change how many times have Ferrari screwed up races it really isn’t good enough

[yooogurt]

Last year Ferrari won Monza on a one stop and amazing tire management. Zero chance that happens again this season...

I think most chanse fow win its Baku. But remember Spa, 0 problems in the last third race, no drop in pace, especially by 2 seconds, on the contrary, he was at the level of the McLarens fighting each other.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Ferrari was using a very conservative engine map in the main straight, on this Russell was right. And it was not due to LiCo. You can check by yourself with the telemetry.
Having said that i don't know what the issue was, i still think is related to plank wear.
The chassis was broken story is 99% fake.

Russell's full quote makes more sense and backs this.

“The only thing we can think of is they were running the car too low to the ground and they had to increase the tyre pressures for the last stint,” he said. Russell said when he caught Leclerc he noticed Ferrari “were using an engine mode that was making the engine slower at the end of the straight, which is where you have the most amount of plank wear.”

“That’s the only thing we can think of based upon the lap times and the engine mode they were running and stuff like that,” he added.

He has no reason to lie about something like this.

[Sergej]

China, Budapest, seems that Ferrari can go fast only at the risk of being illegal. Somehow they have to save face after fuc*ing up so bad this season.

[AR3-GP]

The "due to changing the engine mapping" part reads like bs. First the story was the aero was too powerful for the suspension, and now it's the engine that's too powerful?

This entire season has been one massive propaganda campaign about "potential" in order to save face. They run the car in unsustainably low configurations to create the mirage of pace, and then covered it up with "brake issue", "chassis problem", "overheating". We saw the real picture of the season in Australia and the China Sprint.

The suspension from the promise land is on the car. The new floor is on the car. They still don't have any performance when the car is running at legal ride heights. So they run it extremely low because the floor doesn't work any other way. Ferrari would rather run the car like this and sell the narrative that the 1st stint was the "potential" instead of running the car at a higher ground clearance and struggling to make Q3. It's a face saving campaign full of fairy tales brought to you by Frederick Vasseur.

What does Georges Rassel have to do with Ferrari propaganda? HUH?

I missed that Russell said this, but the sentiment is the same with everything that Ferrari has said all year about the issues. Now we are contending with "chassis damage", which was likely a consequence of running the car too low to get any performance out of it.

[Xyz22]

To me is quite clear.
The car in order to be competitive in race trim to win, that is matching McL pace, has to be run so low that there is a significant DSQ risk.

[dialtone]

You are all over reacting and trusting Russell who knows just about as much as we do about this whole thing.

[yooogurt]

I missed that Russell said this, but the sentiment is the same with everything that Ferrari has said all year about the issues. Now we are contending with "chassis damage", which was likely a consequence of running the car too low to get any performance out of it.

The biggest problem of Ferrari is that they didn't talk about specific problems, the best we could find out was the inside information from Formula Uno, but even they complained that the team doesn't explain about the problems like Mercedes does after every Grand Prix. No one from the team said that the problem was in the plank or suspension.