2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[Jambier]

Great race!
Great strategy!
Both drivers fast!

Feels like 2023 again, so good!

[-wkst-]

Feels like 2023 again, so good!

No, absolutely not. They are a minute behind the leader today, only the result was good to be honest. The car pace was relatively better to their direct opponents, but very hard races ahead (Monza, Baku or Vegas).

[diffuser]

Feels like 2023 again, so good!

No, absolutely not. They are a minute behind the leader today, only the result was good to be honest. The car pace was relatively better to their direct opponents, but very hard races ahead (Monza, Baku or Vegas).

To be fair, nobody was within 20 seconds of McLaren. We were 20 seconds off the car ahead of us though. We were never close to challenging Max in 2023 either.

Anyways, think the goal this year is 5th.

[-wkst-]

Canada and Monaco were good opportunities to challenge VER in 2023. Today was a typical 2024 race pre summerbreak in my opinion. That we are satisfied with todays result just shows how low the expectations are currently…

[AR3-GP]

Fernando Alonso's story is certainly not finished in Formula 1. His ability to toy with his competition is always quite amusing. Every lap that he drives is deliberate. Bortoleto learned that he never had a chance today

[diffuser]

Canada and Monaco were good opportunities to challenge VER in 2023. Today was a typical 2024 race pre summerbreak in my opinion. That we are satisfied with todays result just shows how low the expectations are currently…

Think the expectations have been low for 2025 since September 2024.

[diffuser]

Think this the article the x post was quoting.

https://lastwordonsports.com/motorsport ... s-project/

[Seanspeed]

We went into this race not thinking we could maintain the same position and for whatever reason we actually had good race pace like 2023. Could manage things perfectly

The race pace was significantly worse than the qualifying pace would have suggested.

Alonso was within a tenth of pole, yet was much slower than Leclerc in the race.

AM/Alonso were fortunate that nobody behind them were much faster, really. A good job, but still lots of work to do if they want to be a more regular threat on Sundays.

[diffuser]

We went into this race not thinking we could maintain the same position and for whatever reason we actually had good race pace like 2023. Could manage things perfectly

The race pace was significantly worse than the qualifying pace would have suggested.

Alonso was within a tenth of pole, yet was much slower than Leclerc in the race.

AM/Alonso were fortunate that nobody behind them were much faster, really. A good job, but still lots of work to do if they want to be a more regular threat on Sundays.

Depends which stint. In LeClerc last stint, Alobso was lapping 1 - 2 seconds a lap faster.

[Seanspeed]

We went into this race not thinking we could maintain the same position and for whatever reason we actually had good race pace like 2023. Could manage things perfectly

The race pace was significantly worse than the qualifying pace would have suggested.

Alonso was within a tenth of pole, yet was much slower than Leclerc in the race.

AM/Alonso were fortunate that nobody behind them were much faster, really. A good job, but still lots of work to do if they want to be a more regular threat on Sundays.

Depends which stint. In LeClerc last stint, Alobso was lapping 1 - 2 seconds a lap faster.

Leclerc was clearly dealing with some massive problems in the last stint, though. If we ignore Leclerc, then replace that with Piastri who was basically keeping time with Leclerc over the same period. Or even Russell who gained like a 11+ second gap on Alonso in the first stint.

[AR3-GP]

The race pace was significantly worse than the qualifying pace would have suggested.

Alonso was within a tenth of pole, yet was much slower than Leclerc in the race.

AM/Alonso were fortunate that nobody behind them were much faster, really. A good job, but still lots of work to do if they want to be a more regular threat on Sundays.

It's not comparable. Alonso was on a 1 stop strategy and didnt push for most of the race. He knew Bortoleto couldn't pass him and he just had to get the tires to the end. He wouldn't have anticipated Leclerc's problems. By then it was too late to catch him. I suspect he could have troubled Leclerc with a bit less pace management.

[Rikrikrik]

Doesnt matter so much if the results, were good or bad, they improved that car this year unlike last 2 seasons, they real objective is this. Im praying for 2026 and Honda

[Bisonas]

Alonso's gaps to the cars in front or the leaders are misleading in this race.
Russel and Leclerc where fighting for a podium and the McLarens where fighting for the win.
All cars in front of Alonso where pushing or trying to push as much as possible without destroying their tires.
Alonso on the other hand, was managing tires for many laps in each stint until he got confirmation that tires temps where stabilized and he was pushing only when he had too. In the second stint after he brought in the hards as easy and safe as possible, he had no one to fight in front, so he went into “just bring it home” mode quite early. Alonso probably drove 80% of the race just following a delta. When he actually had to push for a few laps, the pace was always there and it was really good. In the second stint last 15-20 laps or something they where even saving the engine or other car components because his engineers keep instructing him to change some settings always telling him that “there is no penalty for it”. They went to “strat 9”(I think) and after a while to “strat 11”. When he was instructed to go to “strat 11”, assuring him that there is no penalty for it in his race, Alonso started cruising 0.8s slower than what he did with strat 9.
IMO they were changing modes to reduce stress on car components, making the car a bit slower since there was nothing to push for in the last 20 laps.
So I don’t think looking into the gaps in front has any meaning in this race. If Alonso wanted it, he could have been a lot closer, but he decided early on, that there was no point in doing such a thing.

[diffuser]

Canada and Monaco were good opportunities to challenge VER in 2023. Today was a typical 2024 race pre summerbreak in my opinion. That we are satisfied with todays result just shows how low the expectations are currently…

"Never" equals 3 or less times they had opportunity

[diffuser]

The race pace was significantly worse than the qualifying pace would have suggested.

Alonso was within a tenth of pole, yet was much slower than Leclerc in the race.

AM/Alonso were fortunate that nobody behind them were much faster, really. A good job, but still lots of work to do if they want to be a more regular threat on Sundays.

It's not comparable. Alonso was on a 1 stop strategy and didnt push for most of the race. He knew Bortoleto couldn't pass him and he just had to get the tires to the end. He wouldn't have anticipated Leclerc's problems. By then it was too late to catch him. I suspect he could have troubled Leclerc with a bit less pace management.

Alonso had built up a 8 second gap to Bortoleto before letting him create back to 7, then pitting. So that's not really true. It was only from laps 6 to 12 when Alonso was lifting and coasting to save tires that Bortoleto was close. From lap 12 to when he pitted he just pulled away.

That being said there was alot of strategy going on in the race. Like lots lift and coast to save fuel so they could later use higher PU power modes. Once Alonso got to 8 seconds ahead of Bortoleto he went back into a lift and coast mode. Later when he came back out on hards...after about 5 laps he went to STRAT 7 mode and later STRAT 11 which are modes that use more fuel(Hamilton's hammer time mode).