The problem is that we can pull up all kinds of data and still be wrong. Because we have very limited data and because F1 cars are complicated and some simple graph will rarely tell the whole story. It doesn't inherently make some argument fact rather than speculation.dialtone wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 00:54I disagree wholeheartedly. Vanja brings data, other user didn't and in fact asked a question about speculation. My agreement or disagreement has nothing to do with saying it should be in the other thread, I've pointed out before OT conversations, this wasn't related to my agreement any more than the other times.Seanspeed wrote:
If we were to limit this topic to things we can only prove as fact, it'd have to be limited to objectively noticeably photos showing visual differences and nothing more. Nobody would be allowed to talk about what they think those changes might mean or anything, cuz that's all speculative.
Also, as far as the specific context here, there was plenty of technical context surrounding the theory about tire pressures. Just because that person didn't provide the whole thesis themselves doesn't mean you and I and others weren't well aware of what they were talking about. And it was terrible form that because you disagreed with the thesis, you chose to attack them on the validity of even bringing up the topic at all, rather than what they were bringing up. Again, I usually appreciate your posts, but this was not constructive behavior.
I think we've discussed this enough and is now time to let it go, even if it was on topic.
And it doesn't change that you were confident in claiming that you KNEW what Ferrari's problem wasn't, when you were yourself resorting to nothing but speculation, yet are tirelessly arguing for somebody else posting popular speculation to be shut down. It just smacks of wanting to keep discussion guided purely along talking points that you happen to agree with. Speculation YOU agree with is ok, but any other speculation shouldn't be allowed.
