2025 McLaren F1 Team

[geogate]

Lando is a super quick driver. This was a Lando circuit. Lando had a great weekend prep leading up to quali. He made no errors of note. Oscar was on Lando's pace. That should scare 21 drivers taking part in the 2026 championship

[crapu7]

6 engine related mechanical failures for the Mercedes powered cars so far this year, wow! We will probably see a few more till the end of the season.

Gutted for the championship fight, and the next race in Monza points will definitely get more distant. Surely he will get a new engine, and since the last one from Belgium being the last from the allocation, he will be starring at a 10 place grid drop ensuring his out of the fight.

Mclaren is quite a draggy car so taking a new engine in Monza will not make for a good recovery imo, thoughts ?

[Watto]

Though I am supporting Oscar to win, not like that. Disappointing that Landos day had to end without him making a mistake. He drove well, I think Oscar probably had him covered but Lando was keeping him on his toes too.

Depending exactly what the issue is could still come back to bite Oscar too if there is an underlying issue they can't fix. There is a very long way to go still.

[mwillems]

Can you just imagine what the "Mclaren favour Lando" crowd will make of a chassis side DNF for Oscar

Yeah, just kind of exploded that ridiculous idea. Arguably the most transparent team in F1. There was palpable grief over the loss of the #4 car across the McLaren personnel. Another great 1-2 lost.

Oscar does seem to have improved even across the 15 races this year. He seems to have a little extra performance that he holds in reserve, in other words he drives within himself nearly all the time. Yesterday he always looked like he was just setting a pace which he could regulate as and when needed.

I think it was tough to follow there, too. It's possible Lando was doing very well to get to 1.2s behind Oscar and hang there, but that said, what is hard for other cars isn't necessarily hard for the MCL39.

I'd seen Oscar following Max for some time at Miami, and he used to have issues with destroying his tyres when following other drivers.

[CjC]

6 engine related mechanical failures for the Mercedes powered cars so far this year, wow! We will probably see a few more till the end of the season.

Gutted for the championship fight, and the next race in Monza points will definitely get more distant. Surely he will get a new engine, and since the last one from Belgium being the last from the allocation, he will be starring at a 10 place grid drop ensuring his out of the fight.

Mclaren is quite a draggy car so taking a new engine in Monza will not make for a good recovery imo, thoughts ?

Has it been confirmed that the engine can’t be used again? Stella said it was a chassis issue and not a Mercedes issue?

Already said, if Lando takes a 10 place grid drop in Monza he won’t make it to the podium

[mwillems]

Hed be better not taking it at Monza and he has other used engines.

With regards to the engine. Its possible iit could have been damaged, but you'd hope its fine.

I'd imagine it went back to HPP for checks.

[FittingMechanics]

Both "activated" their ICE units. I don't think the engine used in Zandvoort is the one they planned to use in Monza. Why would it be? The car was expected to be super dominant in Zandvoort. I bet Lando does not use a new unit in Monza, or if he does, Oscar will be getting it as well because it was a planned change. The loss of a unit (if it is a complete loss) may come to hurt him later on but even with that I am not sure, Zandvoort is such a McLaren track that they probably used an old engine.

With the car being super fast, even taking a penalty won't be of huge consequence. If he qualifies behind Piastri (especially if it is 2-3 places behind) he can freely take an engine and run an alternate strategy on most tracks. The cars are close and Oscar is fast so you don't lose much if you start further back.

[Sergej]

According to this source, what failed was an oil fitting that connects the Mercedes engine to the radiator in the sidepod

https://www.rmcmotori.com/f1/f-1-gp-ola ... a-mclaren/

[venkyhere]

According to this source, what failed was an oil fitting that connects the Mercedes engine to the radiator in the sidepod

https://www.rmcmotori.com/f1/f-1-gp-ola ... a-mclaren/

If the engine was deprived of oil, then it's a complete total loss on the ICE.

[bauc]

A bit late to the party, PIA drove a superb race, NOR did not had a chance to win, but I'm gutted for NOR, bad luck

[geogate]

the engine probably would have shut down way before damaging oil pressure - it actually sounded like the engine shut down from the in car footage - there were no horrible metal on metal noises

[mwillems]

Both "activated" their ICE units. I don't think the engine used in Zandvoort is the one they planned to use in Monza. Why would it be? The car was expected to be super dominant in Zandvoort. I bet Lando does not use a new unit in Monza, or if he does, Oscar will be getting it as well because it was a planned change. The loss of a unit (if it is a complete loss) may come to hurt him later on but even with that I am not sure, Zandvoort is such a McLaren track that they probably used an old engine.

With the car being super fast, even taking a penalty won't be of huge consequence. If he qualifies behind Piastri (especially if it is 2-3 places behind) he can freely take an engine and run an alternate strategy on most tracks. The cars are close and Oscar is fast so you don't lose much if you start further back.

I suppose first question is do they need another engine? I cant remember what happened last year but we spent the final third wondering when Lando would take an extra engine, and he didn't.

If we do need an engine, is Monza the right track? I doubt we'll be hugely dominant there. It'd be more likely we'd take an engine at a track we'd dominate on so he can at least take second.

[mwillems]

According to this source, what failed was an oil fitting that connects the Mercedes engine to the radiator in the sidepod

https://www.rmcmotori.com/f1/f-1-gp-ola ... a-mclaren/

If the engine was deprived of oil, then it's a complete total loss on the ICE.

The engine reportedly auto shut down when the sensor kicked in.

So the engine will be checked by Merc HPP id imagine, before hopefully returning to the pool.

[CjC]

Sorry to have to post this:



But it does sound like a failure to me
Lando said it himself too.

[mwillems]

Apparently "sources" say that it auto shut down. Its understandable that Lando thought it was a failure since he lost power. But it does seem it stopped due to the detection of a leak, in ttempted prevention of engine damage.

Whether it is damaged is another question, but I wouldn't assume either way.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mcla ... -mercedes/