2025 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 05 - Sep 07

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C3 - C4 - C5

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[michl420]

We have seen cars have typically less rear wing than last year. My question is, would it be possible and/or allowed to race without a rear wing at all? I am thinking of course about Monza and even more Las Vegas.

[CjC]

I can see Verstappen strongly challenging for this race- certainly for the pole

[zibby43]

I can see Verstappen strongly challenging for this race- certainly for the pole

Agreed.

[Bill]

The drs is worth 0.6 tenth here so it's going to be a lottery

[deadhead]

Horrible

[search]

The drs is worth 0.6 tenth here so it's going to be a lottery

what has one thing to do with the other?

[venkyhere]

Last year, McLaren walked away with the front row, not because of top speed, but because of downforce. Out of the top four teams, they had the poorest S1, the best S2 (where all the 90 degree turns are) and on-par S3. There is a lot of focus placed by the pundits and commentary teams about top speed and the exit from parabolica before the long straight, but Mclaren realized last year itself, that the key was Sector 2. And they had more than 2 tenth advantage there - that was enough to give them pole by more than 1 tenth margin.
In a track with many 320+kph bursts, it was one ~100kph corner (T4-5) and two ~200kph corners (T6 and T7) which gave pole - that's as big an oxymoron as it gets in F1.

[Bill]

The drs is worth 0.6 tenth here so it's going to be a lottery

what has one thing to do with the other?

What are on about learn your English, its just an expression meaning it will require a lot of luck to win or earn a podium

[search]

The drs is worth 0.6 tenth here so it's going to be a lottery

what has one thing to do with the other?

What are on about learn your English, its just an expression meaning it will require a lot of luck to win or earn a podium

It's just not my impression, that the DRS effect has led to more chaotic races in the past - more on the contrary, with many DRS trains. But feel free to explain why you expect this, if I'm missing something.

[basti313]

Last year, McLaren walked away with the front row, not because of top speed, but because of downforce.

Well, this is nothing new. Same was the case when RedBull had dominant cars, a well balanced car with some downforce wins Monza. Even if one lap pace is not king, they will dominate on tire wear. This is why I also not see RedBull competitive here. They will struggle in every 90° corner.

[De Wet]

Horrible
https://postimg.cc/VSPN6GVV

Agreed.

[Mattchu]

what has one thing to do with the other?

What are on about learn your English, its just an expression meaning it will require a lot of luck to win or earn a podium

It's just not my impression, that the DRS effect has led to more chaotic races in the past - more on the contrary, with many DRS trains. But feel free to explain why you expect this, if I'm missing something.

I think Bill is refering to qualifying more so than the race itself, we`ve all see how a decent tow can move you up the grid significantly...

[michl420]

Last year, McLaren walked away with the front row, not because of top speed, but because of downforce.

Well, this is nothing new. Same was the case when RedBull had dominant cars, a well balanced car with some downforce wins Monza. Even if one lap pace is not king, they will dominate on tire wear. This is why I also not see RedBull competitive here. They will struggle in every 90° corner.

I always like to point out the year 2010, Button almost win with a pseudo monaco wing.

[Magistos]

Horrible
https://postimg.cc/VSPN6GVV

I think I saw those in a recent episode of Star Trek. Space moths, right?
(I like artistic stuff but this design is just.... )