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zoroastar wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 19:17
i think this goes to show that their imola updates really were a big positive step, and spa was an outlier. im now pretty hopeful for baku too. but lets see how the race goes. hopefully there will be no safety cars tomorrow because judging from past races this season itll put alonso out of the points and stroll ahead of him. i hate to be that way but its almost like stroll qualifies horribly so he can take radical strategies to get into the points every single time. and it just fuels alonsos anger and all the dumb conspiracy theories
LOL

It is what it is. The further up the grid you are, the more risk averse you are. This year Stroll has take risks and they panned out for him. While Alonso taking a less risky approach, it hasn't panned out for him as well. That isn't cause the engineers on Stroll side are smarter, that the Alonso side are not as smart or there is all kind of internal infighting to make Alonso finish behind Stroll. It's just because one or more F1 drivers made a mistake or the rain started, stopped, increased, or decreased at an inopportune time for Alonso and a opportune time for Stroll. It as simple as that. A lot of this stuff is impossible to predict to the ms. It also doesn't mean that things will not go in Alonso favour for the next 10 future touch and go moments in his F1 career. It just is what it is....

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zoroastar wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 19:17
i think this goes to show that their imola updates really were a big positive step, and spa was an outlier. im now pretty hopeful for baku too. but lets see how the race goes. hopefully there will be no safety cars tomorrow because judging from past races this season itll put alonso out of the points and stroll ahead of him. i hate to be that way but its almost like stroll qualifies horribly so he can take radical strategies to get into the points every single time. and it just fuels alonsos anger and all the dumb conspiracy theories
I wouldnt be surprised if they assigned the better strategists and engineers to Lance and frankly Alonso probably accepts that. If not then he should. Lance often has nothing to loose and therefore goes for risky strategies. So far, luck has worked out for him. When its a small sample size and cars are so closely matched from 5-6 down to 15-16, good or bad luck can make a huge difference in points scored and I think thats what frustrates Alonso. Sometimes there might be something going on the background that we might not know about. Sometimes I think Alonso can just be an emotional person. His competitiveness is a double edged sword.

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Fair to say hat off to Alonso, the pack is now extremely tight that passing Q1 is a headache even for top teams, never mind passing Q2 also, Norris had to do a very desperate attempt to pass Q2. So, Alonso being into Q3 regularly is already a masterclass.

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peewon wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 20:03
zoroastar wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 19:17
i think this goes to show that their imola updates really were a big positive step, and spa was an outlier. im now pretty hopeful for baku too. but lets see how the race goes. hopefully there will be no safety cars tomorrow because judging from past races this season itll put alonso out of the points and stroll ahead of him. i hate to be that way but its almost like stroll qualifies horribly so he can take radical strategies to get into the points every single time. and it just fuels alonsos anger and all the dumb conspiracy theories
I wouldnt be surprised if they assigned the better strategists and engineers to Lance and frankly Alonso probably accepts that. If not then he should. Lance often has nothing to loose and therefore goes for risky strategies. So far, luck has worked out for him. When its a small sample size and cars are so closely matched from 5-6 down to 15-16, good or bad luck can make a huge difference in points scored and I think thats what frustrates Alonso. Sometimes there might be something going on the background that we might not know about. Sometimes I think Alonso can just be an emotional person. His competitiveness is a double edged sword.
Agreed 100%. Got to take his reactions in the car with a grain of salt. It's what makes him so good, what drives him.

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diffuser wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 02:36
peewon wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 20:03
zoroastar wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 19:17
i think this goes to show that their imola updates really were a big positive step, and spa was an outlier. im now pretty hopeful for baku too. but lets see how the race goes. hopefully there will be no safety cars tomorrow because judging from past races this season itll put alonso out of the points and stroll ahead of him. i hate to be that way but its almost like stroll qualifies horribly so he can take radical strategies to get into the points every single time. and it just fuels alonsos anger and all the dumb conspiracy theories
I wouldnt be surprised if they assigned the better strategists and engineers to Lance and frankly Alonso probably accepts that. If not then he should. Lance often has nothing to loose and therefore goes for risky strategies. So far, luck has worked out for him. When its a small sample size and cars are so closely matched from 5-6 down to 15-16, good or bad luck can make a huge difference in points scored and I think thats what frustrates Alonso. Sometimes there might be something going on the background that we might not know about. Sometimes I think Alonso can just be an emotional person. His competitiveness is a double edged sword.
Agreed 100%. Got to take his reactions in the car with a grain of salt. It's what makes him so good, what drives him.
honestly alonso isnt any worse than leclerc or max or any of the others when they are having a bad race, but alonso has always been really direct at who hes talking to so it has a little more sting to it haha.

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diffuser wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 16:53
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06 Sep 2025, 16:47
Alonso just expects the same amount of effort to be put into his strategy for the race. Let’s hope so and they capitalise on this provided q3 goes ok
Monza is a one stopper, easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Looks like Alonso isnt taking any risks using Borteleto to escape lol

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To be fair it’s just one big DrS train Alonso could still be vulnerable to early stoppers

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HPP on!

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3.2 was not very good stop but Alonso put himself in play by being close to Borteleto in the entrance and Sauber not having a great stop either

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That pit entry attack was masterful

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Hopefully Alonso can keep Borteleto out of DRS. He seemed to have more pace in the first stint

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OMG again?

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The bad luck continues... Suspension failure from too much kerb...
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Suspension failure! Unbelievable

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Bro, wtf is going on? How is this possible?