2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[diffuser]

We were talking about the pitlane speeding.

The truth is, the regs have been like that for decades. Gas has raced there several times. He knew the regs. Tried to get an advantage, miscalculated or forgot. Then got caught.

If there is a legal shorter route between to points than the route you decide for a measurement then you have a very big problem. If this was on the public road and someone proved it convictions would be thrown out.

Well if they measure the speed of a car by FIA transponders and electronic timing loops, rather than through a camera or speed guns that you would ordinarily find on public roads, they would still be found guilty. It's like saying If I was driving a 63 corvette in Spain going 100MPH in a 100KPH zone and got pulled over by Police, I could argue that my speedometer says 100, so I'm good. Your speedometer reading in both cases don't count.

[zoroastar]

id like to see an overhead layout of the pitlane along with the paths the penalized drivers took compared with others that didnt. like, if drivers didnt cross over any illegal boundaries, and never literally broke the actual speed limit, it seems like BS to get a penalty.

if penalties are gonna start being handed out during races for invisible discrepancies... well it goes perfectly with the way these engine rules have gone so far

[diffuser]

id like to see an overhead layout of the pitlane along with the paths the penalized drivers took compared with others that didnt. like, if drivers didnt cross over any illegal boundaries, and never literally broke the actual speed limit, it seems like BS to get a penalty.

if penalties are gonna start being handed out during races for invisible discrepancies... well it goes perfectly with the way these engine rules have gone so far

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/expl ... /10828092/

"The FIA has found no irregularities in its measurement system and believes the wave of penalties is linked to drivers slightly cutting the pitlane entry. Teams were warned about this by race control before the start."

They were warned.

[etusch]

https://f1-gate.com/astonmartin/f1_95071.html

[hollus]

id like to see an overhead layout of the pitlane along with the paths the penalized drivers took compared with others that didnt. like, if drivers didnt cross over any illegal boundaries, and never literally broke the actual speed limit, it seems like BS to get a penalty.

if penalties are gonna start being handed out during races for invisible discrepancies... well it goes perfectly with the way these engine rules have gone so far

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/expl ... /10828092/

"The FIA has found no irregularities in its measurement system and believes the wave of penalties is linked to drivers slightly cutting the pitlane entry. Teams were warned about this by race control before the start."

They were warned.

They measure the time between 2 points. The shortest line between 2 points is a straight, and they argue that the drivers took a shorter line. It would follow that the “standard” FIA path is not a straight line, or not the shortest possible straight line. Not exactly bulletproof.

[NAPI10]

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https://f1-gate.com/astonmartin/f1_95071.html

I wont belive such rumors even if it's confirmed by Newey.AM has faulted too many times.

[TyreSlip]

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https://f1-gate.com/astonmartin/f1_95071.html

I wont belive such rumors even if it's confirmed by Newey.AM has faulted too many times.

I refuse to believe the 2 seconds rumour too until the team can prove otherwise. But it is imperative that this update is completed before Hungary because they cannot wait until the end of August to decide on car direction for next year.

[mzso]

The truth is, the regs have been like that for decades. Gas has raced there several times. He knew the regs. Tried to get an advantage, miscalculated or forgot. Then got caught.

Nothing to do with the regs. By the regs he wasn't speeding at all, probably none of them were.
The measurement is defective.

Why didn't Gasly get a penalty for speeding in the pitlane over the previous 8 years he's raced at Monaco? The rule didn't change, the way they measure it didn't change...His approach this year did change though. Between FPs, Qualifying and the race, he must use the pitlane limiter 20 times a year @ Monaco.....If a guy has done something 20 times a year for 8 years and never gotten it wrong now gets it wrong only during the race twice ...something he's doing changed.

You can say what you want about how it's measured but he knew the rule going in and has known it for now 9 years! He better learn it cause it will be the same next year.

As I said it has nothing to do with the rules! Nor with Gasly doing anything wrong.
He abided by the rules and still got penalized.

"something he's doing changed." - or not. More likely the FIA set up the speed measurement even crappier than usual. Or the extra pits exposed its inadequacy more.

[mzso]

id like to see an overhead layout of the pitlane along with the paths the penalized drivers took compared with others that didnt. like, if drivers didnt cross over any illegal boundaries, and never literally broke the actual speed limit, it seems like BS to get a penalty.

if penalties are gonna start being handed out during races for invisible discrepancies... well it goes perfectly with the way these engine rules have gone so far

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/expl ... /10828092/

"The FIA has found no irregularities in its measurement system and believes the wave of penalties is linked to drivers slightly cutting the pitlane entry. Teams were warned about this by race control before the start."

They were warned.

Irrelevant. It's not the driver's responsibility to work around the useless FIA measurement system. It's the FIA's responsibility to measure the speed right and not punish drivers who weren't speeding.They reined Russel's race and Gasly's as well.

[mzso]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DZZhBkOT8uM ... JtbHV1Ympt


https://f1-gate.com/astonmartin/f1_95071.html

I wont belive such rumors even if it's confirmed by Newey.AM has faulted too many times.

I refuse to believe the 2 seconds rumour too until the team can prove otherwise. But it is imperative that this update is completed before Hungary because they cannot wait until the end of August to decide on car direction for next year.

With their position it's entirely possible. Especially if they roll out a new car and engine upgrade.

[HPD]

Fernando Alonso on the AMR26:

"In Australia, we found our engine was down.

"In China, we found our energy was down.

"In Monaco, we found our chassis is bad.

"In Miami, we found our gearbox is very bad."

I want to add that the seat is bad too hahaha

[ScottB]

I wont belive such rumors even if it's confirmed by Newey.AM has faulted too many times.

I refuse to believe the 2 seconds rumour too until the team can prove otherwise. But it is imperative that this update is completed before Hungary because they cannot wait until the end of August to decide on car direction for next year.

With their position it's entirely possible. Especially if they roll out a new car and engine upgrade.

And a new gearbox, from the looks of it...

[Rikrikrik]

I'll only believe it when I see it. Their recent history with updates has never been in their favor; on the contrary, I'd venture to say it could get even worse than it is now. Yes, I believe it could still get worse.

[diffuser]

Nothing to do with the regs. By the regs he wasn't speeding at all, probably none of them were.
The measurement is defective.

Why didn't Gasly get a penalty for speeding in the pitlane over the previous 8 years he's raced at Monaco? The rule didn't change, the way they measure it didn't change...His approach this year did change though. Between FPs, Qualifying and the race, he must use the pitlane limiter 20 times a year @ Monaco.....If a guy has done something 20 times a year for 8 years and never gotten it wrong now gets it wrong only during the race twice ...something he's doing changed.

You can say what you want about how it's measured but he knew the rule going in and has known it for now 9 years! He better learn it cause it will be the same next year.

As I said it has nothing to do with the rules! Nor with Gasly doing anything wrong.
He abided by the rules and still got penalized.

"something he's doing changed." - or not. More likely the FIA set up the speed measurement even crappier than usual. Or the extra pits exposed its inadequacy more.

ok, so what is the rule?

Is it that you can't go faster than 60KPH in the pitlane? or is it ? in the pit lane you can't go from point A to point B in less than X time ?

The way I understand it...it is...That you can't go faster than 60KPH in the pitlane as measure from point A to point B in less than X time.

[diffuser]

I'll only believe it when I see it. Their recent history with updates has never been in their favor; on the contrary, I'd venture to say it could get even worse than it is now. Yes, I believe it could still get worse.

What difference would it make it we believed it before we saw it ?