2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Something to note is that energy flow rate flat lines at 10500rpm.
C5.2.3 Fuel energy flow must not exceed 3000MJ/h.
C5.2.4 Below 10500rpm the fuel energy flow must not exceed EF(MJ/h)=0.27*N(rpm)+ 165
206 177 106 104 9 9 7

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Luscion wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 14:30
Enrico Gualtieri confirms ferrari are bringing the new engine this weekend

https://racingnews365.com/ferrari-confi ... -announced

Also looks like theyve gotten Merc's diffuser banned
The toothed diffuser proposed by Mercedes heading towards a ban, with almost immediate effect. Ferrari's legality check office had requested clarification from the FIA, while the aerodynamicists were ready to bring back to the car an even more extreme version of the concept.?
Was about to post exactly this re Mercedes diffuser: https://racingnews365.com/fia-issues-te ... is-request

Apparently Mercedes are trying to push it to Silverstone because their trucks already left but that seems like an extremely poor reason to use an illegal part (that they already got away with using) so really hope that’s not accepted.

Seemingly Ferrari asked the FIA for clarification on this pre-season and were told it would be illegal so another very unfair thing if Mercedes get away with something Ferrari couldn’t. Good to see them finally getting a political win here though - hopefully ADUO, compression ratio + this and we start to redress the balance where Mercedes got the better of political shenanigans.

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f1316 wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 18:45
Luscion wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 14:30
Enrico Gualtieri confirms ferrari are bringing the new engine this weekend

https://racingnews365.com/ferrari-confi ... -announced

Also looks like theyve gotten Merc's diffuser banned
The toothed diffuser proposed by Mercedes heading towards a ban, with almost immediate effect. Ferrari's legality check office had requested clarification from the FIA, while the aerodynamicists were ready to bring back to the car an even more extreme version of the concept.?
Was about to post exactly this re Mercedes diffuser: https://racingnews365.com/fia-issues-te ... is-request

Apparently Mercedes are trying to push it to Silverstone because their trucks already left but that seems like an extremely poor reason to use an illegal part (that they already got away with using) so really hope that’s not accepted.

Seemingly Ferrari asked the FIA for clarification on this pre-season and were told it would be illegal so another very unfair thing if Mercedes get away with something Ferrari couldn’t. Good to see them finally getting a political win here though - hopefully ADUO, compression ratio + this and we start to redress the balance where Mercedes got the better of political shenanigans.
How many “grey areas” are on that car? I’ve lost count.
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Nothing that and angle grinder can't solve.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10832819/
Ferrari already making their new Turbo for the next update.

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Badger wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 20:30
Nothing that and angle grinder can't solve.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLkmSWBWMAA ... name=large
It looks fairly important. Surely worth at least a tenth…. Now gone.

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Badger wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 17:56
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 17:21
venkyhere wrote:
23 Jun 2026, 02:10


Actually, compared to road cars to whom peak power (or power number around peak power RPM) isn't that important ; in F1 cars peak HP is a very reasonable measure of performance, vide the simple fact that the % duration of full throttle and % duration of near-peak RPM (in all gears) over a laptime duration, is a much much higher proportion.

Any power you add lower down the rev range will bring a benefit - the cars don't go from idle straight to maximum revs, they build and any additional power added during that rising rev phase will absolutely accelerate the car harder. That allows more punch out of a corner, for example, and thus enables top speed to be reached sooner.
Not so sure about this logic because cars really aren't "lower down in the rev range" in the power limited parts of the track. https://i.postimg.cc/6qygVHs9/rpm.png The only time a car really goes below 10k rpm whilst on throttle is out of some of the slower corners, and on initial acceleration out of those corners you are far more traction limited than power limited, especially with 350 kW of MGU-K helping. By the time the car actually needs the full grunt from the ICE you are already back in the optimal rev range and pulling gears.
"Down the rev range" is, of course, relative. Offer a team a 10hp increase from 9000-10500 or just at 10500 and they will take the former. And short shifting to control traction in certain places has been used for how long? Many decades, certainly.
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Dino is driving Charles' car in this weekend's FP1. Not sure if this will put Charles on the back foot? Austria track is notoriously technical.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
25 Jun 2026, 02:53
Dino is driving Charles' car in this weekend's FP1. Not sure if this will put Charles on the back foot? Austria track is notoriously technical.
Naaah he will be fine. It's a track at which he goes well. He will be fighting for pole come Q3 on Saturday.

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erudite450 wrote:
25 Jun 2026, 05:28
PlatinumZealot wrote:
25 Jun 2026, 02:53
Dino is driving Charles' car in this weekend's FP1. Not sure if this will put Charles on the back foot? Austria track is notoriously technical.
Naaah he will be fine. It's a track at which he goes well. He will be fighting for pole come Q3 on Saturday.
He was supposed to go well around Monaco as well

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LM10 wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 19:26
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How many “grey areas” are on that car? I’ve lost count.
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It's not grey, its silver (honestly :oops: )
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Matteo Bobbi saying Ferrari are bringing "aerodynamic innovations" on top of the engine upgrade this weekend


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PlatinumZealot wrote:
25 Jun 2026, 02:53
Dino is driving Charles' car in this weekend's FP1. Not sure if this will put Charles on the back foot? Austria track is notoriously technical.
Lewis had his best race in a couple of years after one of the apprentice drivers used his car in FP1. If Charles does the same this race, expect to see both drivers missing FP1 for every remaining standard race weekend... :lol:
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So Ferrari will bring about 10HP with ADUO 1 and 10HP with ADUO 2 ?

That's not so bad, but Fred was right to say engine updates will not be the most important.
Good thing they are progressing well on the chassis as well

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Jambier wrote:
25 Jun 2026, 16:09
So Ferrari will bring about 10HP with ADUO 1 and 10HP with ADUO 2 ?

That's not so bad, but Fred was right to say engine updates will not be the most important.
Good thing they are progressing well on the chassis as well
6 to 8, and maybe like 12 to 15 later? but yes he keeps saying we need to improve every where every department since long time.. right attitude imo